Posted on 03/25/2025 1:06:48 PM PDT by from occupied ga
It’s become vogue on the right to trash electric vehicles. And, mostly, we’re right to. Most of them are garbage retrofits that rely on a garbage network of chargers which are made by garbage ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) manufacturers who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. What they are manufacturing is virtue-signaling, not cars with anything even remotely resembling good EV—or any other type of—engineering.
And then there’s Tesla.
There are EVs, and there are Teslas. And though they are both clearly electric cars, they are two completely different animals. This article aims to give you a permanent mental “ka-chunk” when you think about EVs in general and Teslas in particular because they absolutely, positively should not be grouped together.
excerpt - you can continue reading at the link if you want to gag
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Truth!
in spite of what the mods say, I’ve found that search doesn’t work.
In their defense, they have a point.
I will give you that EVs have major issues. That being said, Teslas are at the top of the crap heap.
My neighbor across the street has both the electric version of the Mustang and the Lightning pick up truck. I drove in the Mustang. It felt...weird. It feels like a retrofit.
I recently got to drive a Tesla for a day. While not for me, I can see the appeal. The tech is much more integrated into the car. It was an EV from the ground up.
The elephant in the room is, Battery technology just isn’t “There” yet. Even if we had the batteries our electrical infrastructure could not charge it.
Politics cannot mandate changes in Laws of physics!
The state I spend a lot of time in, Hawaii, Gas cars are way cheaper to operate then EV’s.
Let the “Market” determine our needs, not some Democrat legislators.
I've found that it works better if I use only one of the more atypical words from the title.
How much did you get paid to post that? sycophantic pack of dishonesty
The concept of using an electric motor, or a combination of electric motors, to provide traction to the road, is an elegant and efficient way to convert electrical energy into propelling road vehicles. The problem comes from the immediate source of the electricity. Is it derived from some on-board electrical generation source, or from a storage system like a battery or possibly a large capacitor?
There have been hybrid systems, in which the on-board generator is powered by a hydrocarbon-fueled source, like an internal combustion engine, driving a generator that delivers the electrical power to the traction motors, much more efficiently and effectively than a series of gears, couplings and shafts, which all lose much more power than passage of current through a properly sized electrical cable. There is also the possibility that electricity could be transmitted wirelessly to the drive motors by having induction fields in or near the road surfaces, this was offered long ago by the inventor, Nicholas Tesla.
Barf alert.
I like Tesla, but this piece is written by one of those annoying Apple worshippers - can’t read it without throwing up.
“they have a battery that loses capacity every time you use it and slowly loses capacity even if you don[t use it.”
Tesla battery average capacity after 200k miles is 85%.
Bkmk
“Their range is like all other EVs calculated under absolutely ideal conditions “
EV range is calculated under simulated city and highway conditions then reduced by a factor of 0.7.
“with no parasitic load on the battery (like heating and cooling)”
Same as ICE vehicles.
“AND their charging time is totally dependent on having a lot of available power a 75kwh battery being charged at 50 kilowatts takes at least 1.5 hours even if you don’t allow for the charging loss. “
50 kw is a bad example.
If you have a Level 2 in your your garage it may take 4 to 5 hours but most of the time people charge before depleting the battery.
A Tesla supercharger gives 200 miles range in about 15 minutes.
“The state I spend a lot of time in, Hawaii, Gas cars are way cheaper to operate then EV’s.”
Electricity there is over 40 cents a kwhr but I don’t gas cars are way to cheaper to operate.
I have no clue where any chargers even are.
Yes and no. I agree with you that the Dims are wrong in saying that EV's are a full replacement for gas cars in all situations and on all trips in all climates, etc.
But I disagree because I believe that there are some use cases for an EV to be practical even in a free market with no govt incentives or mandates. They're certainly not for everyone. And even though my wife and I do most of our driving in our EV to get tons of gas savings, we still like having a gas pickup for pickup chores and for the times an EV won't do.
But I wouldn't get an EV as an only car, or if I couldn't set up home charging, or if I didn't drive enough home charged miles to get enough gas savings to be worth it.
At https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4306603/posts?page=43#43 I answered another FReeper's questions with more details on the pro's and con's of EV and/or solar.
I think I understand what is being said about differences in a Tesla & the average EV. I don’t want one, though I admit, it would mostly fill my needs. I don’t want Apple products either, partly for the main reason I won’t have an EV. I can’t afford the initial price & probably not the upkeep either. I have a 20 year old Buick & it mostly fills my needs for what is surely a lot less money. How will the EV be expected to function at -20 degrees? You need to power a defroster, seat heater, etc. & possibly a few other things as well. Keep your EV. I don’t want one....period.
“The state I spend a lot of time in, Hawaii, Gas cars are way cheaper to operate then EV’s.”
Electricity there is over 40 cents a kwhr but I don’t gas cars are way to cheaper to operate.
Incidentally, I don’t think there is one place in our small town where I could charge an EV, unless I had my own charging station. Don’t know what that would cost in addition to the EV that I already can’t afford.
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