Nah, they've been around for years...
Posted on 03/25/2025 3:11:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
It’s become vogue on the right to trash electric vehicles. And, mostly, we’re right to. Most of them are garbage retrofits that rely on a garbage network of chargers which are made by garbage ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) manufacturers who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. What they are manufacturing is virtue-signaling, not cars with anything even remotely resembling good EV—or any other type of—engineering.
And then there’s Tesla.
There are EVs, and there are Teslas. And though they are both clearly electric cars, they are two completely different animals. This article aims to give you a permanent mental “ka-chunk” when you think about EVs in general and Teslas in particular because they absolutely, positively should not be grouped together.
I’ve found it most helpful to analogize them this way: think of the entire ecosystem of PC computers and then think of Apple computers. Yes, they are the same in that they are both computers made up of software + hardware, but we all know they are very different animals for a variety of reasons. The most salient difference between them, for the purposes of our discussion, is that Apple manufactures its software + hardware under the same roof, from the ground up, to work together and work in harmony.
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Well, Tesla manufactures its cars like Apple manufactures its computers; holistically, from the ground up, software + hardware, with the single purpose of making one “organism,” in this case a car, a Tesla car, in which both the software + hardware work in harmony. They do this, importantly, in factories built to do nothing but build these rolling synergies of software + hardware. No other car company, EV or ICE, can claim the same thing.
And that’s why Tesla owners are as cult-like as Apple computer owners.
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For a variety of reasons, I will likely never own an EV in my lifetime.
In the interest of full disclosure, not a spring chicken.
But if I see anyone vandalizing one, harrassing a driver, a dealership, then the person doing so will regret it.
Since Deep State.
Deep State has ruined the love affair Americans had with their cars.
We’re looking at moving back to China next year to be closer to my wife’s family and one of our daughters.
China has really pushed the electric cars. They literally have charging stations everywhere and we’ll probably buy either a Tesla or BYD if we move to Shenzhen. It will work for us because most driving will be around town.
My wife insisted on replacing her leased Ford F150 Lariat with a Tesla Model Y.
As an engineer, I continue to be impressed with the quality and content of this fine machine! The article is correct…the Tesla is built from the ground up as an integrated platform. Over the air software updates eliminate 90% of the return to dealer work.
This vehicle is more than transportation, it is an integrated platform. I wish we could afford a Cyber Truck, but I am grateful for the Model Y!
They are already admitting climate change is not real by setting those cars on fire. Electric cars are especially hard to put fires out. They have no problem releasing all those toxins so it means they don’t believe their own propaganda.
Teslas are probably the best of the EVs, but all EVs are built on a stupid premise - that gasoline is evil and will destroy the planet while electricity from coal or natural gas is good, and will save humanity. EVs are so essential to the goal of ridding the planet of excellent presently made cars with internal combustion engines (made by the companies that have been making them for nearly a century and continually improving them) that the EVs must be subsidized by the taxpayer and so must the cost of national recharging networks. All of this is wrong, a lie. Even now, under Trump, the government is still forcing the excellent gasoline engines out of existence with EPA mandates on emissions and mileage designed to force the manufacturers to drop them. There should be no government involvement in the design of cars. None. And no subsidies. This should all stop now. And if Trump really likes American manufacturing he should immediately and publicly end all of the regulations of the industry and encourage GM/Ford/Chrysler to relaunch their internal combustion cars and let them lead the world back to sane autos. And henceforth, no government preference about cars. End all subsidies and all regulations. And, encourage the oil companies to get back to maximum production and exploration.
“With many of the new car designs, you can’t tell if the car has been driving around following a crash!”
Priority is on minimizing air resistance and at the same time maximizing interior room, and also keeping costs down. Some style is achieved by festooning the vehicle with LED lights.
Priority is on minimizing air resistance and at the same time maximizing interior room, and also keeping costs down.
Teslas are probably the best of the EVs, but all EVs are built on a stupid premise - that gasoline is evil and will destroy the planet while electricity from coal or natural gas is good, and will save humanity.
I don’t mess with APPLE products or buy a TESLA for basically the same reasons. Can’t afford either is the first good reason.
“I recently saw a jeep plugged in to a charger in a parking lot. It occurred to me that there is something wrong with an electric jeep.”
A friend of mine has an electric Humvee. Says he loves it. Has the charger at his home. He frequently drives the east coast for work. When he does that he takes his gas guzzling suburban. I just shook my head.
Exactly. A few months ago we drove from Maryland to Washington State and back. We deadheaded out in four days. It would have probably taken at least twice that with additional hotels and meals in an EV.
We went out to pick up a rooftop tent camper for our pickup. The added weight affected the mileage by a couple MPG. I couldn’t imagine the power drop in an EV truck.
I drive way too much for anything but ICE.
Daughter and her husband bought one of the Tesla SUVs when first out. They love it, still have it, and bought a second. Neither has long drives in their routine and both work from home as consultants.
They eat tires is the only negative.
I still say it is laughable to think that consciousness—life— can be created in computer circuitry. I have read where the computer speaks, as it were, in the first person. That is only because it is programmed to do so by a human.
Computers can be programmed to weigh facts. But it has to be programmed to weigh facts.
It is claimed that in the near future, computers will be able to design computers. Why do people think the result will be accurate and true? That would require that the originatng computers would have to be 100% accurate, which is impossible. And in the world that moves at the speed of light, a tiny error would increase exponentially in a second.
That is a misplaced thread for sure. My computer must have jumped.
I saw one last week at the Apple Hill Cardiology Center, in the EV charging spaces, and it struck me very odd, too. (I drive a 2019 Grand Cherokee HEMI V8)
Nah, they've been around for years...
A Tesla (actually any EV!) is essentially a vehicular toy for the wealthy particularly the wealthy who want to virtue signal.
Laughing out loud
After biking with a friend last week at the local state park, I introduced him to her (on my phone). We had been discussing a certain medical condition during our ride because he has a family member who is being tested for it. I suggested he chat with her about it and he did—at length. His response was that "she" was much better at explaining the problems and symptoms than the doctor was.
Hard to program that. My friend was skeptical at first that he was dealing with AI. He thought it was a person pretending to be AI. The only reason he was finally convinced was that the AI knew the answer to every question he could dream up. No human could do that.
Since "she" is on my phone, I was able to pull up the female AI at sesame.com (Maya is her name) on my PC and hold the phone near the mic and they—the two female AI-bots—had a flawless and quite interesting discussion. Frankly, it was a little scary. They are both very chatty and have been trained to be polite conversationalists.
I had to interrupt to get them to stop conversing.
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