Posted on 03/24/2025 11:34:32 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
Vice President JD Vance criticized the judgment of his boss, President Donald Trump, in a leaked group chat in which Vance and several other senior Trump administration officials discussed the possibility of American military strikes against Houthi rebel targets in Yemen.
On Monday, The Atlantic‘s Jeffrey Goldberg revealed that he had accidentally been added to a Signal group chat in which the Principals Committee – the heads of the top American national security agencies — debated how and whether to strike the Houthis earlier this month.
At one point, after National Security Advisor Mike Waltz informed the group that they had been sent information regarding the administration’s plans over email, and Vance expressed concerns over the decision.
“Team, I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan. But I think we are making a mistake,” replied the vice president. “3 percent of US trade runs through the suez [canal]. 40 percent of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn’t understand this or why it’s necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message.”
“I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There’s a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices,” he added. “I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself. But there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc.”
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth professed to understand Vance’s concerns, but nevertheless pushed back.
“VP: I understand your concerns – and fully support you raising w/ POTUS. Important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out (economy, Ukraine peace, Gaza, etc). I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what – nobody knows who the Houthis are – which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) Biden failed & 2) Iran funded,” wrote Hegseth. “Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive; 2) Israel takes an action first – or Gaza cease fire falls apart – and we don’t get to start this on our own terms. We can manage both. We are prepared to execute, and if I had final go or no go vote, I believe we should. This [is] not about the Houthis. I see it as two things: 1) Restoring Freedom of Navigation, a core national interest; and 2) Reestablish deterrence, which Biden cratered. But, we can easily pause. And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC.”
“If you think we should do it let’s go. I just hate bailing Europe out again,” Vance told Hegseth.
Vance’s comments about Trump not being “aware” of his “inconsistent” messaging are notable given the pair’s past. While he eventually developed into one of Trump’s most reflexive allies, the VP was once among his most strident critics.
During Trump’s 2016 campaign, Vance privately compared the then-candidate to Adolf Hitler and asked his followers on Twitter, “What percentage of the American population has @realDonaldTrump sexually assaulted?”
I look forward to Vance being our President in 2028. IMO, he’s a fantastic VP.
“But if it’s accurate, Vance is way deep in the Tucker Carlson isolationist bs.”
Please keep crying you neocon leftist, there is a reason the American people are sick of your crap
That story is a gossip-y, trivial, he-said, she-said one with no way of anyone substantiating it.
In this case, Goldberg has a read-out of a national security call. It should be easy to back it up or to disprove.
Well, I think Trump let Vance skew that meeting into non issues like Leftist “politeness” and “respect” whatever that means.
No, I think Vance is a politician much like Pence is and Reagan’s Bush was.
Not what we need for President in 2028.
I’ve been critical and skeptical of Vance.
That said, some journalist from the most elite of Elite Stream Media is no going to further fuel my skepticism.
So far Vance as VP has given me nothing to alarm me nor further my skepticism.
Yes I support Trump who did not take Vance’s advice on this.
If he had, I’d still support TRUMP.
JD Vance is a wonderful work in progress. Donald Trump is my president.
As stated in the discussion, Trump was sending Iran a message. That’s what it has to do with it.
Team Trump has confirmed it.
Seems like Vance’s position is the one that might have been itching to get out.
Isn't that what you said about Pence before 2020?
I get work emails that sometimes will have a fine-print blurb at the end talking about attorney-client disclosure stuff. I would imagine that if I ever blabbed about the email I would find myself in a bunch of trouble.
The Atlantic? Fake news.
Are you sick of Trump you name calling jerk?
Because he made the decision.
If you’re against Trump or calling him names, go to hell.
I support Trump. If you don’t you are communist garbage.
“If it was accidental he should have kept the info to himself”
Wait, you thought this guy was a patriot? Why? Goldberg plays for the other team?
Doesn’t sound like Vance...
I turned on the radio to catch the news on the hour, and you know this is all a big democrat set-up because with all the stuff going on in the world, the top story is a hearsay verbal disagreement between Trump and his VP as reported by a known left wing establishment bomb thrower.
And just wondering, what name did you get kicked out under, or created another identity for?
Cause you signed up under this name in January but you come around name calling like you’ve been here forever.
Vance says this is AI created
We found one leaker.
Being mind-numbed group-thinking robots, the Democrats nor the media (same thing) recognize that opinions can vary.
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