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Black Boxes DECODED - What the pilots REALLY did
YouTube ^ | 03/21/2025 | Brian Murray

Posted on 03/21/2025 2:00:51 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina

Every passengers worst nightmare is a plane crash, especially in the final moments of a flight. At Toronto's Lester B Pearson airport, a CRJ crashed and flipped upside down during a routine landing. We have all been waiting for answers. Was the plane broken? Were the pilots at fault? Were there other external factors? The preliminary report finally sheds some light on some of these questions.


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Six minute YouTube summary of findings from black box of Endeavor/Delta crash in Canada (upside down). Posting for Freepers who will understand the technical lingo (I don't).
1 posted on 03/21/2025 2:00:51 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: TexasKamaAina
The short version is pilot error.

A too rapid rate of descent broke the right main gear off and the right wing dug in causing the flip.

Everyone onboard should buy a lottery ticket and also send a thank you note to the CRJ manufacturer..

2 posted on 03/21/2025 2:21:23 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: TexasKamaAina

Seems like she chopped the throttles too soon, failed to maintain penetration above V-Ref, didn’t flair and pounded it on the runway. The captain should have been flying in that weather, she was too green. Lucky they didn’t have a far worse outcome, and her career is over.


3 posted on 03/21/2025 2:24:32 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: TexasKamaAina

Inexperienced woman pilot.


4 posted on 03/21/2025 2:24:45 PM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: TexasKamaAina

Another DEI hire…


5 posted on 03/21/2025 2:26:02 PM PDT by Lucky2 (Go woke, go broke or get fired)
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To: VTenigma

So this was a co pilot landing, in that weather?

If yes, then the PIC bears responsibility too for sure.


6 posted on 03/21/2025 2:27:13 PM PDT by Blueflag (To not carry is to choose to be defenseless.)
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To: TexasKamaAina
"Every passengers worst nightmare is a plane crash, especially in the final moments of a flight. "

Let's have a show of hands from those people who prefer to have their plane crashes at the beginning of their flight!

7 posted on 03/21/2025 2:29:21 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: pfflier

Thank you. That’s the way I saw it too.


8 posted on 03/21/2025 2:30:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Bureaucratic District "Judges" are the greatest threat to America and Americans.)
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To: Blueflag

Was the PIC a man? Probably too concerned with being accused of sexism to take control.


9 posted on 03/21/2025 2:32:52 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: William Tell

I typically prefer the crash (if knowing it is inevitable prior to boarding the plane) occur below 10 mph before 10 seconds in to journey. Always have.


10 posted on 03/21/2025 2:33:46 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: mikey_hates_everything

PIC=Pilot in Command


11 posted on 03/21/2025 2:34:29 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: William Tell

i prefer late in the flight

i do not want to be cheated out of my in-flight meal


12 posted on 03/21/2025 2:34:58 PM PDT by joshua c
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To: Prince Caspian

Not enough hours to be certified to fly passengers = inexperienced (could have happened if inexperienced man flying).

Was flying anyway because received a waiver = woman (man would not have received a waiver - airline ADVERTISES all-female crews with banner “This flight is un MANned”).


13 posted on 03/21/2025 2:38:35 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: TexasKamaAina

The YouTube I watched, the narrator came just a millimeter (it’s Canada after all) short of saying what everyone has been thinking.


14 posted on 03/21/2025 2:43:39 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: joshua c

Haha - priorities!


15 posted on 03/21/2025 2:44:11 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Blueflag

The PIC was primarily a simulator pilot. His total hours over decades was something like 3,000,


16 posted on 03/21/2025 2:46:33 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Jim Noble

The waiver was based on attending an approved aeronautical school. Men can get that waiver too.


17 posted on 03/21/2025 2:47:33 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: joshua c

In-flight cracker and water, lately.


18 posted on 03/21/2025 2:50:24 PM PDT by Dr. Zzyzx
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To: Mr Rogers

Wow...


19 posted on 03/21/2025 2:52:36 PM PDT by Blueflag (To not carry is to choose to be defenseless.)
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To: Blueflag
So this was a co pilot landing, in that weather? If yes, then the PIC [Pilot In Command] bears responsibility too for sure.

Those conditions aren't consider "weather" for Toronto.

She was the PIC, the "sole manipulator of the controls", because she needed to build her hours for the airline.

The senior pilot would log his time as Second-In-Command (SIC) because he didn't need the hours. He would bear would bear no responsibility.

Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) § 91.3 Responsibility and authority of the pilot in command.
(a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft.

20 posted on 03/21/2025 3:17:01 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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