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1 posted on 03/17/2025 6:04:11 PM PDT by Jonty30
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Link?


2 posted on 03/17/2025 6:05:51 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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I’m quite happy in my Sasquatch home. We don’t see each other often enough though.


3 posted on 03/17/2025 6:06:53 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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GEMINI

It’s important to understand that the reasons why a kidnapped child might appear resistant to returning to their parents are complex and often rooted in trauma. Here are some key factors:
* Trauma Bonding/Stockholm Syndrome:
* In some cases, children develop a psychological bond with their captors as a survival mechanism. This is often referred to as trauma bonding or a form of Stockholm Syndrome. They may feel a sense of dependence or even loyalty to the person who has kidnapped them, especially if they have been subjected to prolonged captivity.
* Fear and Manipulation:
* Kidnappers often use manipulation, threats, and fear to control their victims. Children may be terrified of the consequences if they try to escape or return home, believing that their captor will harm them or their family.
* Cognitive Dissonance:
* Children may experience conflicting emotions and thoughts. To cope with the trauma, they might try to rationalize their situation, which can lead to confusion and difficulty processing their feelings.
* Changes in Perception of Reality:
* Prolonged isolation, and manipulation can cause a child’s perception of reality to become altered. They may begin to see the kidnapper as a source of safety or even love, especially if they have been isolated from other positive influences.
* Parental Abduction situations:
* In cases of parental abduction, the abducting parent may have spent considerable time alienating the child from the other parent, causing the child to have negative feelings towards them.
* Psychological Trauma:
* The experience of being kidnapped is deeply traumatic. Children may exhibit symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), which can include emotional numbness, avoidance behaviors, and difficulty trusting others. This trauma can make it difficult for them to reconnect with their parents.
It’s crucial to remember that a child’s apparent reluctance to return home does not mean they do not love or miss their parents. It is often a sign of the severe psychological trauma they have endured.


4 posted on 03/17/2025 6:07:37 PM PDT by TexasGator (X1.1111'1'./iI11 .I1.11.'1I1.I'')
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the sex was great


5 posted on 03/17/2025 6:07:48 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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One of my ancestors, Joseph Kellogg was captured during the Deerfield raid in 1703. He was released after 10 years with the Mohawks but two of his sisters also captured eventually married into the Mohawk tribe and refused to return to the settlements. Apparently they liked the Indian life style.


7 posted on 03/17/2025 6:11:27 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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I’ve heard that before too and it makes no sense to me.


8 posted on 03/17/2025 6:11:33 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, โ€œSurely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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Slavery was very common among all native tribes. Berries don't pick themselves. Fish don't weave nets to catch themselves. Hides don't scrape and sand themselves soft. Fires need tending. Wood needs collecting. Ponies need care.

Labor is always scarce.

9 posted on 03/17/2025 6:11:49 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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You must have recently watched “The Searchers” starring John Wayne, Jeffrey Hunter, and Natalie Wood.


11 posted on 03/17/2025 6:12:48 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical object)
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You must be joking. Brainwashing is most effective when they are young.


13 posted on 03/17/2025 6:14:47 PM PDT by dennisw (๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ)
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The John Wayne movie “The Searchers” deals with that very issue. Ethan spends years searching for his niece Debby (played by Natalie Wood) who was kidnapped by Indians because he wants to kill for having been “tainted” through living and having sex with Comanches.


14 posted on 03/17/2025 6:15:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats do not object to government corruption as long as they get a cut of the loot.)
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This is a story that happened fairly close to where I currently live. https://www.pa-roots.org/data/read.php?574,619006#google_vignette


15 posted on 03/17/2025 6:15:28 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Duston


16 posted on 03/17/2025 6:16:21 PM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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A lot of them were taken when they were very young, and assimilated into the Native culture.

(A Lot of adults ‘went native’, too, even though it wasn’t forced upon them.)


17 posted on 03/17/2025 6:16:48 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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Kidnap a child into your tribe and you don’t have to risk losing a mother in childbirth, or having the baby stillborn or dead soon after birth as was typical in that era.


19 posted on 03/17/2025 6:17:22 PM PDT by fso301
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Olive Oatman was treated as a daughter by the Mojave tribe and she basically submitted to them because of that.

Some accounts say she hated them, but her family descendants who talked to her said it wasn’t true.

Everyone knows about the Stockholm syndrome. Captors always provide some sort of rationale for their behavior, and people - especially young people - buy it.


21 posted on 03/17/2025 6:17:55 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Post 4 covers most of it, but to get back to Indians.

Not only were the parents and others in the kids lives usually dead and their world burned and destroyed and the kids knew it, but the kids themselves were hand selected, most were killed with the rest of the family and the ones chosen to live would be further culled during the trip back to the village or shortly after, if they looked like trouble or too rebellious they were killed and often in brutal or torture deaths.

The boys who grew up with Indians were far more likely to be happy with it, they had status and were living a boys fantasy, in adult hood they could move back and forth as they chose and live as indian or white, while the females usually lived unpleasant slave lives or even nightmarish lives, at least until they finally got pulled out of the rape loop or out of the sex slave trading and selling and reached a stable life and maybe bore kids, some of them simply were made a wife of someone, which was a level of slavery but more tolerable, many were disfigured in the face to squelch their desire to escape and return to civilization where the knowledge of their rapy lives tainted them.

Many women went insane from what they endured with indians.


25 posted on 03/17/2025 6:26:29 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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Go to archive.org and search for the book titled incidents in the early history of New England and the author’s name is Reverend Henry white, I think it’s henry. It is a detailed account of many different stories.

There is also a book and story you need to look up on the Deerfield Massacre and I just forgot the author’s name, but the entire book is included in Henry White’s book.

Many children were kidnapped by the Indians in New England and Upstate New York and other states in that area and they were captured and sold as slaves to the French Canadians including French Canadian priests.

The name of the book written by the pastor in Deerfield was titled the redeemed captive returning to zion. The youngest daughter that he had was kept and captivity long enough that she did not speak English anymore and when they went back a second time to find her that she felt really uncomfortable with the family but after being back with the family for a while and having other people speak to her I guess she accepted her old life once again. Some of the children were very young and they had no real memories of their original mother and father and some of their original parents were just murdered outright by the indians.

I’m on the phone so I can’t give you a bunch of links but there’s a lot of stories about things like that and how because of the French and Indian War and the alliances that the British had with different tribes and the alliances that the French had with different tribes, that many Indian tribes would kidnap the children and the parents and sell them as slaves to the French Canadian priests and some citizens and they would be held there until their freedom was purchased or that the frenchman, both priest and layman, would eventually release their captives.


29 posted on 03/17/2025 6:31:41 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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The same reason children switched at birth prefer their “adopted” family to their blood family.

They love and become attached to the families that raise them, as well as their society. It is what they know.


32 posted on 03/17/2025 6:35:22 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism. )
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I assume you mean Native Americans?


34 posted on 03/17/2025 6:36:25 PM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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Because that was their family and what they knew.

You have to understand that the kidnapped child was not a slave but was adopted into the tribe. They built a life there. Being taken back to the settler culture was not where they wanted to be. They did not understand it and often were not treated very well.

In the tribe they had status and a place.

The ones that were older when they were taken were more likely to remember more of their own culture and would adjust better but think of a five year old child who was taken and then rescued when he or she was fifteen. Two thirds of their life was spent being one thing and they are abruptly thrown into a new culture and expected to fit in.

It worked the other way around as well. Indian children who were raised by settlers from an early age often did not want to return to their tribe either.

35 posted on 03/17/2025 6:36:50 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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