Posted on 03/07/2025 7:54:38 AM PST by marcusmaximus
The Polish prime minister has said the government is preparing to introduce “military training” for all adult males in the country and that the initiative should be ready “by the end of the year”.
Donald Tusk told parliament on Friday that if Russia took control of parts of Ukraine, then Poland would find itself in a “difficult geographical situation”.
He said: “We are preparing large-scale military training for every adult man in Poland. Our goal is to finalize the plan by year’s end to ensure a well-trained reserve force ready for potential threats.
“If Ukraine loses the war, or if it accepts the terms of peace, armistice, or capitulation in such a way that weakens its sovereignty and makes it easier for Putin to gain control over Ukraine, then without a doubt—and we will all agree on this—Poland will find itself in a much more difficult geopolitical situation.”
In an address dominated by security, Tusk also said that “Poland must pursue the most advanced capabilities, including nuclear and modern unconventional weapons.
“This is a serious race - a race for security, not for war.”
He also told the house that he had asked the Defense Ministry to initiate Poland's withdrawal from the Ottawa Convention and possibly the Dublin Convention, which ban the use of anti-personnel mines and cluster munitions, respectively, explaining that “faced with a threat Poland will resort to any means necessary.”
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Novgorod was the birthplace. Ruriks kin traveled down and established a settlement at Kiev. Kievan Rus.
The name Rus is root for a old Finnish name Rusti, which means, those who row.
They were VIKINGS.
DNA studies done few years ago place many european Russians within the Finnish gene pool.
I have no clue whats going to happen.
I think Trump walked into this with his favorite toolset, with which he was unpreparered to deal with the realities of the situation. Traditional methods exist for good reasons. And they fail, or are costly, often enough. But they persist because they HAVE worked.
Only Russia, really Putin, because he asked for this personally.
They went in with guns blazing in a decapitation operation, with mech columhs rushing to take strategic points all over.
No negotiations, no conferences, no traditional human blusterous wanking. If Russia had a legit case he could have asked for stuff that would prevent international aggression Ukraine->Russia.
The real problem is he really wanted illegitimate things.
Getting ready for Dub Dub 3! One way or another the US will get sucked into it like WW2.
But aren't you being predictive a little too early? Trump has not abandoned the attempt to bring about a stop to the conflict. If anyone has thrown water on the process, it has been Ukraine, France, England with Poland now adding to the dampening of the negotiations.
But then your premature prediction is par for the course for never-Trumpers such as yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SpddNW7a3k
This just points out that either you are totally ignorant, or you lack honesty as you ignore the 2 Minsk Accords in 2014 & 2015 that were signed, but never implemented.
After Merkle stepped down, she admitted that the Accords were only signed to buy time to build up Ukraine's military.
You also refuse to accept that a proxy war was the desired outcome that was wanted. That revelation should have made you see the truth that your argument that getting Putin to invade was the plan all along, but it didn't. Because you do not want to accept the realities that made this conflict become a reality, and that Putin & Russia had tried in vain for several years to avoid a kinetic engagement with Ukraine. But when all of those attempts were made, they were rebuffed by being ignored, and the ongoing conflict still persisted without a working resolution.
Is it really that hard for you to accept that the propaganda you have been fed, was indeed propaganda?
You are unserious about your claimed support for Ukraine. You're true commitment is to take down Russia, without thinking that perhaps that is not such a great plan after all, because that leaves China to contend with, Their capabilities really remain an unknown. Russia has nukes, but we also know something about Russia as we brought Russia into WWII as an ally.
They were a pivotable ally too. They may not have been the decisive ally in the defeat of the Axis nations, but without question, they certainly shortened the duration of WWII.
South Korea. Kuwait. Portugal (1809). Do you want an academic paper?
Minsk accords werent about Nato fears but about the Donbas.
And Merkel etc knew going in that Putin would wipe his ass with it. THAT was why it was a “buy time” thing. Ukraine wanted a ceasefire and took the hit of Russian noncompliance z- it was the Russians that didnt comply.
Belgium 1914, Ethiopia 1940, Oman 1965 (ish). Iraq 1928 (vs the Ikhwan). Etc.
Sounds like a draft to me. Looks like Poland is getting ready for a US pull out and a confrontation with The Russians. Not cool. Poland seems bent on WW III.
Seems to fear that a US pull-out means high risk of a confrontation with the Russians. I don’t see how you can say this is an unreasonable fear. Especially if the US gives the Russians 5 years, say, of unencumbered oil/gas revenues.
Well, let's see South Korea came about in 1948 as a result of U.N. intervention. They may have stopped the kinetic part but they left the situation unresolved, and to this day it remains iffy 77 years later.
Kuwait was solved by a kinetic war. The Middle East still remains a hotbed of unrest, that Kuwait has played no role in that region, but that wasn't achieved by negotiations. First papa Bush repelled Iraq && Saddam Hussein with the first Gulf War. It was resolved about a decade later when W. Bush invaded Iraq and took out Saddam Hussein.
In 1809 war broke out between Portugal & France, it was solved by Portugal defeating Napoleon & the French. The French invaded a third time but were repelled.
Two of these examples were not settled by diplomacy. South Korea comes somewhat close, but no solution was really accomplished It was our might and military investment & presence there that kept each other at bay from each other for all of these decades. Not really diplomatic solution there either.
But hey, at least you did attempt to answer that question of mine. But that was possible because we had a very robust economy. That no longer exists. So, again more examples of you ignoring realities.
Harold Coyle wrote a novel, oh 25 or so years ago that envisioned an antagonistic western europe and a friendly helpful Poland, a friendly Russia and a dangerous Ukraine.
There is such a thing as preparing for war in order to prevent one.
Irrelevant? Russian control of Ukraine would over double the border Poland would have to defend. Russia can already attack through Belarus if it wishes.
More important is that there is a lot of talk in Europe about nukes. In the long run, several more euro countries having nukes is a REALLY bad idea.
South Korea - the US left them with a very vague guarantee. They were invaded by North Korea. The US came to the rescue. In the end, after much trouble, the result was about the status quo ante. South Korea became a happy wealthy, free land that makes nice tanks but suffers dreadfully from a shortage of golf courses.
Kuwait - about like the above, with much less trouble (for the Kuwait part).
Lets call Portugal (of that episode) a three-stage affair. Portugal and Britain have an extremely ancient alliance - I see 1294 on wiki, but I’ve seen earlier. Basically England guarantees Portugals sovereignty. This 1808-1810 case was not the first time this has been invoked btw.
So, part 1 France pressures Spain to help it take Portugal because, naughty naughty, they still trade with England against Napoleons will - see Ukraine, Putin and the EU for a nice parallel. French and Spanish (French allies at the time(1808) invade and take over. French have a falling out with the Spanish and the Spanish go away. British intervene, beat the French, and the French go away. Some British Regiments get new foreign places for their cap badges. Huzzah!
French invade again after the British leave to fight in Spain, French take Porto - a very important town for British apertifs. British come back and kick out the French, again. Huzzah!
French organize a real invasion, no longer playing games, with a huge army. No longer playing games either, the British AND the Portuguese this time create a complex strategy of delays and logistic warfare. The exhausted French fetch up before massive fortifications in front of Lisbon, where they starve. Eventually they go away again. Huzzah!
Oh I can go on and on.
BTW - Britain was dead broke in 1808-09
And it got worse. In the end they issued perpetual debt, the famous consols (consolidated) bonds that could not be retired. They just paid interest on them forever. You can still buy them. “A consol has an infinite maturity, and is priced simply as [C/2]/r0.5, where we are assuming that the coupon is paid every six months, and r0.5 is the discount rate for 6 months, i.e. 2r0.5 is the annual yield on the consol. Example: If C = $10,000, and the annualized discount rate is 9%, the price is $113,557.26.”
The Minsk II agreement did not explicitly mention NATO or Ukraine's neutrality. However, Russia insisted on Ukraine's neutrality as a condition for peace, which would prevent Ukraine from joining NATO. This demand was steadfast and became a significant point of contention in the negotiations.
The agreement required Ukraine to adopt constitutional reforms that included decentralization and a special status for the self-proclaimed republics of Donetsk and Luhansk. Russia used these provisions to influence decisions concerning Ukraine's legal order and demanded that Ukraine's constitution include provisions on neutrality, which would prevent NATO membership.
Despite these demands, Ukraine refused to include a neutrality clause in its constitution, which was a key point of divergence between Ukraine and Russia regarding the implementation of the Minsk agreements.
So, Russia was willing to overlook that demand in order to restore peace to eastern Ukraine. But that was not honored either.
See you really have no clue about anything beyond the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine, and claim that it was without provocation. He could get neither peace in eastern Ukraine or commitment from Ukraine or NATO that NATO expansion into Ukraine be taken off the table.
Putin had made it clear in 2008 that both Georgia & Ukraine were considered by Russia as being red lines. It was purposely ignored in order to make Putin to either look weak, if he didn't follow through with is red line proclamation, or start a war with Ukraine.
In other words, they wanted Putin to either invade Ukraine or ben humiliated on the world stage. They calculated, correctly as we now know, that Putin would invade. They had what they wanted so, that meant the proxy war could begin as planned using Ukraine & her people as the battlefield & fodder for Russia.
It shames me as an American that my country would plot evil at the expense of both the Ukrainians & Russians, Because they cared not for either group of people.
From there it was an easy sale to the American public that had decades of animosity towards Russia, via the USSR, to play on.
Nice saying you have on your homepage;
(Romans 13:4): “He beareth not the sword in vain: for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil”
Too sad that you not understand who was evil here? If could be stated that all three displayed evil in the decisions made by all three leaders of the U.S., Ukraine & Russia.
Instead of making the easy decision to remove NATO consideration for Ukraine, they all chose the kinetic solution.
There were other ways to bring Ukraine safely more into the NATO/Europe sphere of influence. One of them was to also tone down the belligerence towards Russia.
But like I said, people like you cannot think outside the box, which is why you always resort to the kinetic option.
It was a major geopolitical blunder to push Russia into the arms of China, instead of bringing them into our sphere of influence as well. Reagan would have done that if the USSR had imploded while he was our President.
That is why Reagan & Trump are the only two presidents, that I personally remember, that I have real respect for.
Eisenhower I remember but I was not really involved in politics at that point in time of my life. My parents like him, so I probably liked him as well by default, especially since he was seen as a war hero.
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