Posted on 03/01/2025 11:04:27 AM PST by OneVike
Europe has the most dangerous people on Earth.
Up til now Europe had the most destructive tech on Earth.
Both are why Europe effectively conquered the Earth after 1492. You Americans are the heirs to that btw.
The US is the wealthiest, most lethal state on Earth.
So when the Very Very dangerous Euros make a mess, who stops it? Its the US or nobody. If you want people to stop bothering you, theres an easy fix - become weaker.
No, we need to stop feeling obligated to try to *solve* everyone else’s problems.
And the problem also comes in that some of what is involved in these *wars* is us trying for a regime change in another country. So we end up supporting the *rebels* who often (usually) end up as bad as they guys they’re rebelling against.
We have enough problems here at home to manage without managing someone else’s too.
If we focused on being energy independent and food and medicine independent and did much of our own manufacturing, we wouldn’t be so easily derailed when other countries had problems.
And our economy would be booming and people would have jobs and thereby housing.
I sort of disagree with how you phrase the post WWI problem:
“We could also go back to the end of WWI when European leaders decided to divide up the Middle East into various countries by putting their hand picked dictators in power, instead of setting up Democracies.”
Wilson did justify the US entering WWI in order to make the world safe for democracy, so the European divvy-up later made a liar out of him. But I would have altered your summary a bit:
“We could also go back to the end of WWI when European leaders decided to divide up the Middle East into various countries by putting their hand picked dictators in power, instead of MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS.”
Just a minor difference.
And I would emphasize your statement of the America First policy to be clear that we will be strong enough punish those that harm us even indirectly. Venezuela opens its prisons to send criminals to the US? Drone swarms destroy the Venezuelan government. Mexican government allows cartels to funnel drugs to the US? We take out the cartels and a great portion of the Mexican government. Then, of course we leave, saying “That’s for nothing. Don’t try to start anything. Hope you have money for repairs.”
My thoughts are that the only time Article 5 has ever been invoked is by the USA after 9-11 and that there are many Canadians, Brits and Europeans are dead because they got dragged into the war in Afghanistan.
Shame on me for not keeping my eyes open during that disaster.
They both should have been hung out to dry.
How much did they steal. Trillions?
And got our soldiers murdered and 10s of thosusands more with horrific brain injuries.
Never again.
I agree, but it begins by wanting to fix things we have no bossiness fixing.
Exactly.
I added the caveat for 9/11
Well a lot of posters here seem to have forgotten that.
Oh come on. The real reason was the streets of NY were paved in gold (allegedly). More to the point, there was also free land. Money talks to rich people and poor. Its unnecessary to look for noble reasons.
You can examine your own assertion. Why for instance did the Italians come? No forever wars or religious persecution. It was just that the Italians were poor.
Yup. If we’re attacked directly, that’s a whole ‘nother ball game.
It’s the involvement with affairs that we have no business being in.
I personally believe in “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”.
You can call it being “the worlds policeman”.
I call it avoiding the next world war.
Our yearly military costs are WAY cheaper than a war.
Democrats are notoriously bad at this because they rule from their Gonads. EG Vietnam and Middle East wars, just to name a few.
What is happening in the Ukraine and South and far east Asia
is just a continuation of civil and not so civil wars that have happened for centuries.
America although not perfect has a framework of somewhat voluntary cooperation. Not many other large populations have that. That is our power.
As an example, I was born and raised in CA state, lived and worked 20+ years in WA state, and now reside in Hawaii.
How do I identify myself?
I’m an American!
Now if you Ask a guy born and raised in the UK, Whoe worked in Germany for 20+ myears nad then went tom Spain how would he identify?
Probably as an Englishman, not a european.
They have no connection to each other.
If you read all I wrote, you would see I believe in the most bad ass military on the planet. We don’t need to practice by getting into skirmishes’ we have no interest in. A bad ass military can and has scared others from doing stupid things.
We need it for protection and retaliation when attacked, but not every wars others get into just because they know America will come along and foot the bill with arms and lives.
I can count on one hand the wars we had to be in ion the last 100 years. The rest were none of out business.
Silly, they are with OJ’s wife’s killer.
We have no interest in Russian desires for greater hegemony? In China’s?
The US has interests in every spot on earth. The issue is tactics, strategy, and budget.
I did understand,
but here is my observation,
“practice makes perfect”
Russia fell flat on it’s butt in the Ukraine, because they had little real world experience fighting with a determined adversary.
were it not for their practice of just throwing bodies at
the enemy. They would not succeed.
The future will tell just how much they damaged their society killing off so many of their young working class
men.
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