The Ukrainian ambassador covered her face….(in top diplomacy meeting with Trump). Video—seconds

X ^ | 2/28/2028 | Nick Sortor

[Phoenix8]

The Ukrainian ambassador covered her face when Zelensky CONTINUOUSLY tried speaking over Trump and Vance in the Oval Office

She knows it’s ALL over.

Great job, Dictator Zelensky

[Phoenix8]

A first class Train Wreck of a high level diplomacy meeting. Z came here to beg support and you can hear him in the background talking over Trump in an argumentative voice!!! Not to mention a lot of video evidence seems to show he was cursing out Vance under his breath.

In our White House…SMH.

It’s so bad the Ukrainian ambassador hides her face, unconsciously trying to separate herself from a reality she has trouble comprehending.

I doubt Zelensky can be trusted now.

[Oscar in Batangas]

Ambassador: “Not my president!”

[V_TWIN]

After watching that and his interview on Fox last night I’ve realized that guy has absolutely NO GRASP on diplomacy......the ambassador saw what was happening..... maybe SHE should be president of Ukraine.

That dude very well may have signed his own death warrant.

[crz]

He could not be trusted before.

After this long overdue bust up went down i told the wife to watch, the little SOB ill run from one European leader to another to look for sympathy.

And guess what.

What bafgles me is...how is it a Jewish young man with a abrasive demeanor continue to be a leader of a country that is falling apart and run by NAZI idealogs behind the scenes?

[Candor7]

I doubt Zelensky can be trusted now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

What does Trump actually know?

Zelensky is part and parcel of the Biden crime family.

I surmise that Trump and Vance , as well as Rubio and Walz, have CIA intel that Zelensky and his oligarch war cabinet have laundered billions right into their own pockets.
Trump cannot get that money back but he i s cutting Zelensky and his war lord cabinet OUT of the mineral deal, so that they cannot continue to fill their pockets.

I do ot think that Zelensky gives a damn about the ives being lost by Ukrainians. He wants “Wictory” at any cost, including the treasure and blood of the United States.Why? To preserve the oligarch class to which Zelensky now belongs, a nefarious collective of criminals and embezzlers,created to feed the Biden crime family and themselves.Preserving that is what Zelensky wants.

Trump wants to be rid of Zelensky and his war lord cabinet, and deal with authentic representatives of the Ukrainian People.

[rdcbn1]

Zelensky is being egged on by President Trump’’s domestic and foreign enemies who fomented and drove the proxy war for the last three years.

Their goal is to manufacture a disaster in the Ukraine that they can blame on Trump to deflect the blame off themselves and avoid the consequences of their disastrous policies in Ukraine.

They are trying to damage Trump to save their political careers and possibly to avoid jail for what they have done.

[nathanbedford]

Napoleon was reportedly asked, "what kind of enemy do you prefer to fight?" He allegedly responded, "allies."

I submit that worse than fighting with contentious allies is fighting alone and isolated.

In less than a fortnight this administration has alienated the following countries: Canada and Mexico with tariff threats and, in the case of Canada, annexation; Panama with threats of invasion if necessary to secure control of the canal; Denmark with threats of invasion of Greenland, a Danish protectorate, allegedly is to secure domination of the North Sea passage and to secure access to certain minerals in Greenland; Germany by actively supporting in opposing party A F D in an election in which CDU/CSU won the plurality; the UK with support of Nigel Farage; every EU country, especially Germany, with threats of tariffs; Ukraine with allegations that is premier is a dictator, the country is corrupt, that is responsible for the war and more recently with a fiasco in the Oval Office; virtually every EU nation, several such as United Kingdom and Germany mentioned by name, criticized for their alleged violations of freedom of speech, association and opinion; European union nations criticized for digital privacy policies; virtually every EU nation by threats of broadside 25% tariffs; virtually every NATO country apart from Hungary and a couple others in reaction to the fiasco in the Oval Office in which the president of Ukraine was humiliated, support for Ukraine in the war was threatened, causing NATO nations who openly question whether the United States will actually comply with its article 5 promises to defend NATO members who might be attacked; many nations around the world by withdrawal from the Paris Accords concerning CO2 emissions; many nations around the world by possible withdrawal from the World Health Organization; nations around the world who no longer receive (for better or for worse) USAID funds.

Note: this recital of actions by the administration is merely a list, it does not contain nor is it intended to imply any value judgment as to whether the administration is well motivated, well advised, morally justified or even successful in any of these actions. It is merely a list cataloging the "global" effects of these policies to be considered against the relative value of accumulating or losing allies. Do we want allies or not? Allies, are we accumulating them or losing them?

Napoleon was a martial genius at dividing allies time and again and defeating them piecemeal. History tells us, however, he met his Waterloo when he could not prevent the juncture of Wellington and Blücher. Once again Britain, a dominant seapower but inferior on land, contrived to find allies to bleed and die for the Empire. Much of American foreign policy, especially under the influence of Admiral Mahon echoed the warmaking strategy of its parent nation.

It is astonishing to learn in the wake of World War II with 20 million or more Russian dead, 7 million or more German dead, millions of Japanese dead, and many Italians dead, that the United States emerged victorious, rich, and militarily dominant with only 400,000 fatalities. I like the British model better than Napoleon's.

It is of course only prudent to place oneself in the shoes of an adversary, a potential adversary, an ally or a potential ally to evaluate their potential actions. How would the head of state or the senior military advisor of a nation react to the events of the last fortnight and especially how would they react to what occurred in the Oval Office? That man would have historical knowledge in his analysis.

He would consider how, postwar with the Marshall plan etc., we buoyed our allies and helped restore them to democracy and prosperity. They remain our allies today, at least tentatively so.

He would know that we fought in Korea, ultimately held the line, and served our South Korean ally well by bringing it to democracy and prosperity. Korea is a staunch ally today.

He would know that we did not fare so well in Vietnam. There those Vietnamese who fought alongside America were lucky to make escape in a helicopter but the bulk were abandoned by America, forced into concentration camps, desperately took to the ocean in open boats to escape Vietnam. Vietnam is not an ally, but the realities of economics have made them something other than an enemy.

Iran was a mixed bag, but no credit to the United States, it certainly did not enhance our reputation for reliability with our allies.

Afghanistan was a disaster similar to the fiasco in Vietnam. Countless Afghan allies were abandoned to their fate to be taken prisoners by the Taliban and worse. We abandoned billions of dollars worth of first-class military equipment along with our Western and Afghan allies. Many credit the humiliation of this withdrawal, that might well be confused with Vietnam, except we used planes in Afghanistan and helicopters in Vietnam, with inciting Putin to invade Ukraine. Like Vietnam, we managed to humiliate ourselves on television. Worse, we failed our allies once again.

The same head of state or security advisor now ponders what he saw as it occurred live on television from the Oval Office. The Europeans: We already know the reaction across-the-board of the Europeans, they are appalled. Many think that Trump has become an agent of Putin, others, more moderate, believe that Trump is a prisoner of his own anti-globalist ideology. They do not accept that America has no responsibility for the outcome of the war in Ukraine. They note that Neuland turned Ukraine away from the Cairo deal into war. They do not forget that United States, again acting in its official capacity, formerly promised to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine in exchange for the surrender nuclear weapons. European leaders do not accept the legitimacy of saying that a deal or a promise no longer binds America because Biden has become Trump.

Even before this episode they had been communicating among themselves about the best course of action to proceed without the United States in NATO. They had begun to analyze the costs of setting up a European army apart from American influence. I believe that the high expense of conventional armies will push Europe to conclude that there security must be had through nuclear deterrence. It is now the common belief that America is an unreliable ally, at least while Trump was president, who will not adhere to its pledge to defend member states against invasion especially will it retaliate in a nuclear exchange, thus initiating deterrent value in America's nuclear umbrella. The implications of nuclear proliferation are sobering and should be apparent to everyone.

It appears that the NATO alliance is at best threatened, certainly undermined with member states at cross purposes. Just the kind of allies Napoleon likes.

As to the Pacific:

What do we suppose the reaction of heads of state of those Pacific nations who are currently physically threatened by China will be when they contemplate their dependence on America? Will they double down and tie their fate to America, or will they start to cut their own deals? Will they say, we cannot tie our fate to America because America is simply not trustworthy. Will we be safer with Pacific nations liable to be picked off by China one by one? Will the Chinese belt and Road tentacles of envelopment be thwarted under these circumstances? If not, can we rely on the left in America to rally around the flag when we are isolated and alone? I do not expect China to invade the United States by landing Marines in San Diego, I expect them to undermine and encircle us. If we are ever credibly threatened by a nuclear China will we crouch into a fetal position as a nation, paralyzed by our leftists and uncertain of our values, and simply let China absorb us? Will we be better off as Patriots with allies around the world resisting the Chinese, or better off isolated and alone?

These questions are rhetorical, the answers are self-evident.

[MotorCityBuck]

“ Zelensky is part and parcel of the Biden crime family.”

That.👍

[nopardons]

BTTT

[Rlsau1]

Policing the world has been extremely expensive. Couple that with the graft and corruption of our allies and our own government, the US is not in a fiscal position to continue the status quo. The larger question for the US is, “Which policy benefits America the most? Should we continue trying to curry favor with and protect nations that are primarily interested in what we can give them, or do we need to change course and start dealing with the excesses that have brought us to the brink of financial ruin?” The survival of the USA as the champion of liberty is what this is all about. Doing the same things that have brought us to the edge of the abyss financially is not a good option.

[EQAndyBuzz]

“She knows it’s ALL over.”

It was the head shake at the end which sealed the deal.

[Savage Beast]

Regardless of the provocation, Trump and Vance should not have allowed themselves to descend into a tantrum.

[Degaston]

Trump has shutdown the Global Vorruption machine that gets rich by milking American Taxpayers. That’s why they hate him. As far as Ukraine is concerned, they need to send a Head of State to the Oval Office who firmly confirms that they have No Cards on deal making with the USA.

I don’t think that Trump really wants a Rare Earth’s deal with Ukraine. That deal is meant to convince Putin and Russia that they better get serious about begging for peace because the US has a stake in Ukraine.

If Zelinsky would have just kept his mouth shut, except to say thank you, and then signed the deal then this is what I think would come next. Trump would take a victory lap to talk up getting paid back for Biden’s hundreds of billions & doing this to signal to Russia that they better get serious for an immediate cease fire and serious peace. We probably would have seen a first temporary cease fire before Monday morning. Trump gloating over a big win got America on the mineral deal would have had nothing to do with the mineral deal & everything to do with getting into Putin’s head.

Trump knows that with all the foreign aid, money to sanctuaries, corruption in DC, trade deficits, whar the Constitution says, makeup of 9 seats in Suoreme Court, Thune & Johnson, etc that his best approach is to put America First & take a FAFO approach to the anti-Americans, both foreign and domestic. Zelinsky has no cards.

Thinking of negotiation cards - over 2 million federal workers don’t have any cards either. If Johnson can’t get 217 votes to keep the parts of the government open that risk shutdown if Trump doesn’t get what he wants then shutdown will happen. Look at what cards the USAID middle managers now have. And there is also Gavin the 49 billion wildfire beggar.

[nathanbedford]

Doing the same things that have brought us to the edge of the abyss financially is not a good option.

You have gone right to the root of the matter, good on you. I have posted many times my belief that we are in a foot race led by Donald Trump to get the deficit under control before we go over the abyss. Everything, repeat everything, depends on winning that race.

But the question is what are the same "things" that have brought us to the "edge of the abyss financially"? Donald Trump insists that these foreign entanglements, which concededly run into some trillions of dollars since and including Iraq and Afghanistan, are the main cause of our distress.

In doing so he often conflates silly penny-ante nonsense done by USAID with fantastic outlays to no good and in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't know of anyone today was urging a foreign policy of intervening with boots on the ground virtually anywhere in the world with the possible exception of defending Taiwan and that because of the vital chips industry. Therefore it should be easy to avoid massive outlays and feudal wars but not engaging them in them and I see no pressure anywhere to do so. Putin is not in condition to trigger a defense of number states of NATO with an invasion. There is no need for us to try to turn Gaza into the Atlantic City on the Mediterranean-we saw how that worked.

But if we look at the whole budget we will see that it is ultimately entitlements that cause our distress. I don't think that Elon, as heroically as he is striving, will be able to find $2 trillion, or even $1 trillion of waste fraud and abuse in the government. I hope I am wrong but if I am not then we going to have to make very hard decisions.

In making those decisions we have to weigh cost against profits. In doing that we have to decide whether we want to become a mercantilist country. Trump wants that, quite obviously. I think he's on the right track but he must do so delicately without antagonizing the whole world to no advantage.

The episode in the Oval Office, whoever was less diplomatic than the other side, demonstrates a breakdown in diplomatic skills which can cost us so much in achieving fair trade as a mercantilist nation.

After World War II we sacrificed mercantilism as a role for America in exchange for global security against the Soviet Union. Now Trump is suggesting that we sacrifice national as well as global security to secure mercantilist advantage. That is an attractive goal but one that certainly requires finesse, delicacy and diplomacy.

[AuntB]

“What does Trump actually know?

Zelensky is part and parcel of the Biden crime family.

I surmise that Trump and Vance , as well as Rubio and Walz, have CIA intel that Zelensky and his oligarch war cabinet have laundered billions right into their own pockets.”

Trump also knows that Zelensky always knew Joe Biden was corrupt and being bribed by Ukraine and Zelensky. He knew during the infamous phone call that got Trump impeached and said nothing to expose the Biden crime family.

[Candor7]

We have a new era definition of allies.

Allies who are dependents are not allies.

Tyis is the point.

Alienating dependents does not pose a problem

They either pull their weight or not.They either return to the values of free speech and liberty, or not.

And so we may go it alone. But we will remain dedicated tio the values of the Constitution, and we will prevail.Just as we have done historically.

[mac_truck]

Regardless of the provocation, Trump and Vance should not have allowed themselves to descend into a tantrum.

What tantrum did Trump and Vance descend into?

I must have watched a different news conference...

[wildcard_redneck]

You really love America being an empire where the costs of maintaining the periphery bleeds the seat of the empire white. The American empires is a lose, lose for American citizens.

[nathanbedford]

I don’t think that Trump really wants a Rare Earth’s deal with Ukraine. That deal is meant to convince Putin and Russia that they better get serious about begging for peace because the US has a stake in Ukraine.

Can you imagine how this plays not just to the Ukrainians who are bleeding and dying, some would say at the behest of the American government? How does it play to Europeans who believe that Ukraine is a victim and Putin is a villain?

They see this as the final straw, America reneges on its treaty commitment, it's exhortations by Victoria Newland to fight on with American support, and the promises made by Biden for 3 1/2 years. Now, we demand repayment for our support where no deal requires repayment, a level of support that we are exaggerating, and we demand that payment should be in the form of the mineral treasures of Ukraine.

When a man whose back is to the wall trying to save his shattered country asks, will you guarantee our survival for real this time in exchange for these minerals, he is rebuked and humiliated on international television.

Accurate or not, that's how it is being seen in Europe.

How long will Trump govern in America? How long will America be strong enough to impose its will against the wishes of the rest of the world? How long can we be seen as a bully and prosper?

[Savage Beast]

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