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1 posted on 02/28/2025 7:41:28 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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Dear Ukraine:

We own you.

Do what we say, or else.

- American Taxpayer.


2 posted on 02/28/2025 7:44:29 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (No American money or lives for Europe’s censorious, socialist, anti-democratic islamophiles!!!)
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Funny thing about war....and the old...”To the victor goes the spoils”...nothing’s changed.


3 posted on 02/28/2025 7:45:34 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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“…a sharp cut in Ukraine’s military, a ban on foreign weapons and troops, and a Russian veto on Western security assistance…”

They say it is “false” that Ukraine walked away from this deal? I could see them completely rejecting such a deal, and western powers encouraging them to do so.


4 posted on 02/28/2025 7:47:38 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Oh no! It’s not the corrupt MIC Globohomo woke world victory plan you have been pushing so hard for three years! Get over it.


5 posted on 02/28/2025 7:50:11 AM PST by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months s)
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WSJ is complete and total globalist BS.
I don’t believe a word of this crap.are your troll pennies running out yet?


10 posted on 02/28/2025 7:59:58 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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that Ukraine and Russia were about to strike a peace deal in Istanbul, and that Kyiv walked away from an agreement under pressure from Western politicians, such as then-British Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

That is absolutely true and was verified by former Israel PM Naftali Bennett.

12 posted on 02/28/2025 8:10:21 AM PST by Kazan
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Marcus, the author said: “Steve Witkoff appeared to embrace the Kremlin’s key, and incorrect, talking point” You seem to know a lot about the situation. Can you tell us why he has deemed the talking point ‘incorrect’? References, please. Not editorial comment, which the WSJ is wanton to do.


13 posted on 02/28/2025 8:11:04 AM PST by Eli Kopter (Gentle elves set light to lead the Faroes on the starry way from age to age - U. of Faroe Islands)
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“Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly demanded that any future peace talks be based on a return to the Istanbul parameters, which in Moscow’s interpretation foresee a sharp cut in Ukraine’s military, a ban on foreign weapons and troops, and a Russian veto on Western security assistance in case of renewed conflict. Ukraine refuses to return to that draft, which was never completed or approved by President Volodymyr Zelensky.”

It wasn’t agreed to NOT due to European pressure, but just because it was a lousy deal. It would be a worse deal now, and Trump will not get Ukraine agreement to it.


19 posted on 02/28/2025 8:18:43 AM PST by Wuli (qq)
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Apparently they’ve never been to a mediation.

A good mediator scared the crap out of both sides so they make a deal.


21 posted on 02/28/2025 8:28:01 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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Russian troops, however, were defeated around Kyiv and the rest of northern Ukraine just as negotiators gathered in the Turkish city

How embarrassing for Ukraine to peddle a fiction like this..the Ghost of Kiev lives on in their imagination.

and Ukraine has since then reclaimed additional areas of Kharkiv and Kherson regions.

My understanding is Ukraine has lost the territory it "reclaimed" in Kharkov and the decision to leave Kherson in 2023 was strategic and done in an orderly fashion.

That this crap gets posted as "news" in a major US newspaper borders on criminal.

23 posted on 02/28/2025 8:33:32 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To Kyiv, recent remarks by Steve Witkoff appeared to embrace the Kremlin’s key, and incorrect, talking point over the past three years: that Ukraine and Russia were about to strike a peace deal in Istanbul, and that Kyiv walked away from an agreement under pressure from Western politicians, such as then-British Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

Actually, Johnson did pressure Z not to negotiate.

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Russian troops, however, were defeated around Kyiv and the rest of northern Ukraine just as negotiators gathered in the Turkish city, and Ukraine has since then reclaimed additional areas of Kharkiv and Kherson regions.

False. Russian troops were not defeated - wherever Russia withdraws troops the Ukrainians claim they fought for that region and 'won' against Russian troops. Russia has had air dominance and Ukraine has had 'insufficient air defenses' to the point which Ukraine has entire cities without a single standing building, according to Trump. Ukraine doesn't have anough arms or men to fight. Ukraine's infrastructure has been so severely damaged there's not much to return home to for refugees.

No documents were signed in Istanbul, and the two sides were wide apart on key issues.

Zelensky ordered an end to these talks once Ukrainian troops found hundreds of executed civilians in the town of Bucha near Kyiv following the Russian retreat.

False, unless the Azov's were busy. The kursk 'incursion' the Ukrainians bragged about included mercenary troops with the Ukrainians firing upon Russian civilians, ambulances etc. Hard to get fair reporting on these issues - but Zelensky has done very little to protect his people as Ukraine is the proxy for NATO's war against Russia.


24 posted on 02/28/2025 8:34:59 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Ukraine Rattled as U.S. Negotiator Points to Russia-Backed Template for Peace

Oh Dear, your Zelensky really screwed up today.

You should tell your Zelensky to improve his Homo Dance 'cause it's not working.

I have told my President Trump and my Vice President Vance that they are doing a Great Job in humiliating your Nazi Warmonger Dictator Zelensky.

25 posted on 02/28/2025 10:43:11 AM PST by Navy Patriot (President Trump Decisively Won Popular & E.C., Celebrate Recivilization!)
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