Posted on 02/22/2025 11:07:02 PM PST by Cronos
A debate is brewing over whether airlines should adopt weight-based pricing, charging passengers based on their weight to reduce fuel consumption and emissions.
This discussion follows a broader trend of U.S. airlines implementing fees for checked baggage, which began in 2008 with American Airlines, and has since become standard practice.
While Samoa Air's 2013 'fat tax' failed to gain traction, Finnair recently conducted a three-month voluntary data collection initiative, gathering passengers' weight along with their carry-on luggage.
This anonymized data — including age, gender and travel class — will be used to refine aircraft balance and loading calculations from 2025 to 2030.
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YOU WIN POST OF THE MONTH, IMO
THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT OBESE EAT THE SAME FOODS-—
IF you were to see what I eat on a yearly basis-—you would choke. Am 85.
I am within 10 pounds of my HS graduation weight of 130. 5’5”
Speaking as a fat person, I agree. Also force anyone who occupies more than a seat to pay for two seats. I’m fat but at least it stays in the confines of my seat.
Lack of exercise is not the problem. It’s what they eat, e.g., gallons of soft drink, sugar always (“but it’s low fat”), starches, all and every form of carbs.
Its both. But many do eat so much calorie-dense items in a day, there is no way they could exercise enough to burn off all the ingested calories.
Passengers or cargo, airlines?
You’re going to have to make a choice.
Airlines need to use volumetric pricing.
Scrooge: “are there no workhouses? Are there no cargo holds?
People today are much larger, that’s for sure.
In videos, passengers appear to be squeezed into the plane like sardines in a can. Flying was practically a glamourous experience years ago. I have not set foot on a plane in a long time.
I think it’s a combination of factors:
1. bad childhood eating habits — too many sugars (they are in EVERYTHING, including bread) and too few vegetables
2. a car based culture - in many places there aren’t even any sidewalks
3. once you are fat, it is difficult to lose weight.
In the old days, plane tickets were expensive compared to average salaries.
Then ticket prices went down, down, down, to the Ultra-low-cost-carriers and since more people choose the ULCCs, their share went up and the FSC (full service carriers) had to adopt the cattle-class option for coach to survive.
weight makes more sense as more weight = more fuel needed to burn
the rev is right — COrn syrup is in everything as it is subsidised by the government.
Sugar is also in everything.
I agree those are all significant factors!
Consistently, most people prefer cheaper seats rather than business OR even economy plus.
Economy Plus or business class restores some of the elegance and positive demeanor of airline travel with available lounges, priority check-in, and boarding, along with a more refined cabin facility and service.
One gets what one pays for.

School meals: America v/s France
Actually the Egg McMuffin is in the grand scheme of things.
I can echo metmom’s pov - after deciding to go mostly vegetarian a few years ago and purely cooking at home, I just couldn’t stand fast food. Even fast food I had loved now was just ughh - I could taste the overdose of sugar and salt and just bad.
Try this — cook your own meals for a month from unprocessed goods:
Breakfast - you can fry mushrooms with onions and eggs. Or mozzarella. Or try this:
- Boil water, then pour in a handful of rolled oats in a bowl, add chia seeds and flaxseeds add the boiling water so that it just covers the oatmeal
- while that is sitting, chop up about half a dozen almonds, add it to oatmeal.
- Chop up an apple
- if the oats have absorbed the water, proceed, or pop it in the micro for 30 seconds
- coat the top of the oats with a layer of Greek yogurt
- then add the chopped apples
- add a sprinkling of cinnamon
- add half a banana or some other fruit
and voila - a tasty, healthy breakfast with 3 of your daily fruit and veggies already
For lunch chop up veggies or bake aubergine and stir fry the veggies. you can add about 100 gm of meat or substitute with beans. Make 80 gm of rice or better yet buckwheat and a tasty meal. you need to experiment with the spices: I normally add in cinnamon, ground cumin, some ground paprika, some chilli flakes, and garlic and salt and pepper.
Just try that for a month and strict no soda, no alcohol, no snacks and no processed food.
After THAT, even the smell of an egg mcmuffin can put your off
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