Allstate slammed with lawsuit after scheme to spy on millions of Americans is uncovered: 'Without their knowledge or consent'

www.msn.com ^ | 2/9/2025 | Story by Simon Sage

[airdalechief]

Allstate Insurance and its subsidiary Arity are being sued for col­lect­ing, using, and sell­ing over 45 mil­lion Amer­i­cans' dri­ving data to insur­ance companies without consent, according to Malwarebytes.

This case comes amid a tumultuous year for insurance companies, mainly on the home insurance front, as many have recently come under fire for dropping coverage ahead of major weather disasters.

[GizzyGirl]

I remember when GMC first started advertising OnStar thinking our vehicles would all be tracking our every move some day… that some day has been here a long time!

[jeffc]

No, I didn't pay them to resell my data.

1. They pay me (in a discount on my insurance).

2. I didn't see where they said they would or could sell my data to others.

3. the only data "taken" is hard/quick stops and speeding. I don't know of any other data they could get from my car as the app only runs on my phone.

[Rural_Michigan]

Be sure to check that setting is still off occasionally. Nissan allows it to be turned off but will automatically re-enable it without your knowledge.

[mewzilla]

Insurance is not the problem.

Insurance exists to manage risk.

Capitalism requires a healthy insurance market.

Which is why Deep State is doing its damndest to make private sector insurance unaffordable.

Deep State, as usual, is the problem.

[mewzilla]

We used to buy used cars.

But we rarely found any owned by people who take as much care of their cars as we do.

The value, for us, was no longer there.

Now we buy new ones and drive them til they drop.

[fso301]

I just have to wonder how our cars & homes would be built & repaired if there was no means of insuring them.

Much smaller, well away from shorelines, other flood risk areas and tree-fall risk.

[kiryandil]

What is an “SF”?

[BBB333]

State Farm

[BBB333]

“Does it monitor time spent in the left lane while driving below the speed limit?.”

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I spend my time in the left lane driving ABOVE the speed limit.

[Dr. Sivana]

I have Allstate. They and a bunch of other insurers offer discounts to those who agree to have their driving tracked. I simply declined the discount. Why would it surprise anybody that the data would be sold, if you are getting a discount?

[MayflowerMadam]

We’ve had “waiting lists” of people wanting to buy our cars when we decided to sell because DH takes such good care of them. (He’s OCD - LOL!) Plus, we don’t do a lot of traipsing so they’re almost always low mileage.

Every time we take our 2010 Accord in for regular maintenance the guys in the shop all want to buy it.

[Z28.310]

State Farm

[Dr. Sivana]

I’m financially very comfortable and so can afford Freedom and not be tracked by insurance.

My financial position is not very good at all, but I give up elsewhere, rather than oblige myself to carry a phone with me everywhere I drive, etc.

[Dr. Sivana]

So, add those two apps to the list of suspects. Because of this, every app which can be uninstalled was removed.

Many apps have a website equivalent. Use a browser that has decent privacy controls, and you can often get the functionality without the tracking.

[EVO X]

I bought a new Toyota and part of the app included is defaulted to monitor/collect driving data

I just got a new BMW sedan. The app default is not to monitor trips, but it will tell you the location of the car when checking the app. Supposedly, the onboard SIM can be disabled by BMW but if you do that then you can't do a remote start or check the status of the car with the app.

[fruser1]

How do they differentiate whether you’re a driver or passenger?

[kawhill]

I wonder what Jake from StateFarm thinks.

[Vaduz]

Everything about us is spied on even if you take a car to a smog shop for tags your insurance company has all the data about the car that was down loaded.
Same for cell phones your tv cable options everything you buy with a credit card cameras all over the place................

[Chickensoup]

Install your own remote start

Have you got along in life without accessing your car’s status in your phone?

Suck it up buttercup

[bobbo666]

The EV makers do the same. When you buy you give permission, like downloading some crappola software from the WWW and not reading the “terms of service”.