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Why not let the Afrikaners in?(South Africa)
American Thinker ^

Posted on 02/06/2025 7:19:12 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET

Elon Musk seems to be at the head of a drive to allow White South Africans to immigrate to America as refugees. The South African Whites are Westerners, and the West should not abandon its people to a vindictive, hostile, government in South Africa. But can anyone doubt that this country was far more stable when the core demographic was West European?

Russia has already taken in 15,000.

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To: DiogenesLamp
Muslim Arabs and Africans clearly do not know how to behave in civilized society, yet everyone in Europe is terrified of pointing out that they are no good.

That's due to culture.

In London, there's a huge difference between Hindus and Muslims even though they're the same people from the Indian Subcontinent.

21 posted on 02/06/2025 7:45:09 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: ComputerGuy
This has to be handled with the utmost delicacy, but some deserving South Africans can be moved closer to the front of the immigration line.

Do you think you can sneak white favoritism past the people who make their living pushing racial grievances in the US? No amount of "delicacy" is going to stop them from accusing the US of "racism" if it lets in South African whites while at the same time deporting millions of "brown" people.

At some point we will have to be blunt. "No, we don't want your various unintelligent third world parasites. We want capable productive people, and the South Africans will actually face a genocide if something isn't done to help them."

Best thing to do is to just prepare to make enemies of all the race hustlers and simply steamroll over them. We shouldn't care what they think anymore.

22 posted on 02/06/2025 7:46:19 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DIRTYSECRET
3)if the government of South Africa allows such violence against whites to continue then give South Africa what it wants. Let the whites come to America, and allow South Africa to once again be a pure region for people of color.

I think there are other countries who could take them as well. I think Brazil and Argentina might be able to accommodate some. I would think all the US allies in the world could come up with a plan to deal with this. It shouldn't be solely the US's problem.

23 posted on 02/06/2025 7:49:15 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I think there are other countries who could take them as well. I think Brazil and Argentina might be able to accommodate some.

They should not leave. Some of their ancestors have been in South Africa since 1650. Things may be bad now.

But it's quite possible they'll improve in 20 years from now.

24 posted on 02/06/2025 7:51:08 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“They would be “high quality” immigrants. Boers are descended from the Dutch of old. Educated, skilled at farming. Politically conservative (in the generic sense). They could repopulate empty farming communities and restore them and then some.”

Exactly.


25 posted on 02/06/2025 7:51:39 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MinorityRepublican
The appropriate remedy is to launch sanctions against South Africa until they improve their government.

They cannot. I don't keep up much with South Africa, but when I do see stories about it, I notice they all involve serious degradation and decline in South Africa's ability to maintain a civil society.

They can't keep the water on. They can't keep the electricity on. They can't stop massive amounts of murders. They are going to disintegrate into Liberia or Haiti within the next decade.

The government of South Africa doesn't know how to govern, but they are pretty good at looting and bribery.

26 posted on 02/06/2025 7:52:38 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Carry_Okie
Considering the pressure Carter put on SA, yes it is.

Carter was an astonishingly stupid man. (And that's being kind.)

He was a disaster for the world. He has caused more death and destruction "accidentally" than any president in history.

Much of what is wrong with the world today can be traced directly back to that very stupid man.

27 posted on 02/06/2025 7:54:35 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Reily
Be aware of unintended consequences! The Boers and other South African whites are used to and in favor of a fairly socialized economic system. I’m not saying don’t let them in, but if you think you are letting in the voting equivalent of rural Americans you are not!

This is one of my big concerns about letting such people into the US. They are *SOCIALIST*! They love themselves some socialism, and like Canadians, they would skew our elections in a bad direction.

28 posted on 02/06/2025 7:56:00 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Russia has resettled about 600+ thousand. They most likely fit in to the culture better.


29 posted on 02/06/2025 7:56:45 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: DiogenesLamp
Much of what is wrong with the world today can be traced directly back to that very stupid man.

Carter was a tool of David Rockefeller.

30 posted on 02/06/2025 7:57:21 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

A few points

1. Those “whites” are mainly Boers - Dutch in origin. They won’t want to go to the UK - the country that put their ancestors in concentration camps and forcibly conquered them (ref. Anglo-Boer war)

2. They are Africans - they have been there for 500 years and their ancestry predates the entry of Zulu peoples into south Africa. Why should they leave their ancestral lands?

Better for them to have an Orange free state


31 posted on 02/06/2025 7:59:17 AM PST by Cronos
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’m not talking about how it’s presented and then defended. I’m probably too blunt to use as a spokesman. Not capable of speaking delicately.


32 posted on 02/06/2025 7:59:44 AM PST by ComputerGuy
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To: DIRTYSECRET

1. These people aren’t ‘The west’ - if you refer to the 1800s when the British forcibly conquered the Boers and put many into concentration camps you’ll see that they aren’t one entity.

2. Rhodesia already had a Bantu speaking population when the English arrived. South African Boers actually predate the Zulus coming into South Africa.


33 posted on 02/06/2025 8:01:02 AM PST by Cronos
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To: DiogenesLamp
The government of South Africa doesn't know how to govern, but they are pretty good at looting and bribery.

I think you've narrowed it down perfectly.

At this moment, it's unlikely that the South African government is going to be able to organize behind a strongman like Mugabe.

They're too incompetent and corrupt to do anything.

Of course, things may change quickly.

But if you have money, you'll be able to afford living in a gated community with private security.

34 posted on 02/06/2025 8:02:47 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: DiogenesLamp

Better to help them move to Russia. Russia has large barren areas that could be farmed. A true bread basket.

And the socialist policies that the Afrikaans people enjoy.

Much better fit.

There are 6 million of them


35 posted on 02/06/2025 8:03:10 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Cronos

Better for them to have an Orange free state

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You have to be working with people who can honor treaties. South African blacks are not an option. There are times it is better to leave and resettle.


36 posted on 02/06/2025 8:06:01 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I have wondered this for years.

White South Africans face dire conditions every day - locked out of jobs, destitute, subjected to horrific crimes, especially farmers.

The US has flown in all kinds of refugees - Vietnamese, Afghanis, Armenians, Congolese - who faced terror in their homelands not unlike what White S Africans face every day.

Why Not South Africans?


37 posted on 02/06/2025 8:11:36 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“The appropriate remedy is to launch sanctions against South Africa until they improve their government.”

Yes, and a couple nasty letters too, that should really set things straight.


38 posted on 02/06/2025 8:16:56 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I have a friend who was born in Rhodesia and grew up there. Had the best life until Mugabe took over. She moved to South Africa and married a successful businessman. Then they started discriminate even against white people. White people can’t farm, white people can’t own businesses, white people white people. So she had a daughter who had gotten the job on a yacht owned by the Waltons. She was able to use her daughter.’s status to emigrate here with her husband 12 years ago.
BUT she said she has a room full of paperwork, They had to start a business and show the government that they would employ 50 people and have $500,000 to invest and on and on. Her husband worked for his company here for Ten quarters paying into Social Security, and then he died and she can’t get Medicare or Social Security payments. She still had children over there and grandchildren and does not want to go back. Actually she became a US citizen after about 10 years of living here.
The point is being from South Africa, they had to jump through hoops. And the benefit has not been realized for the sacrifice they made. But they are great people and I would want them in our country any day.


39 posted on 02/06/2025 8:27:23 AM PST by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”)
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To: Chickensoup
it's not a question of honoring treaties. The Orange Free state in the 1800s was heavily armed and could hold its own - even against the British empire.


40 posted on 02/06/2025 8:28:01 AM PST by Cronos
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