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1 posted on 01/31/2025 12:29:30 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

A plane lands at upwards of 165mph, that’s about 250ft/scd. That’s not a lot of reaction time if the air traffic controller hasn’t done due diligence and gives clear instructions.


2 posted on 01/31/2025 12:34:01 AM PST by Jonty30 (If you ate your twin in the womb, your pronouns should be we/us.)
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To: Morgana

Let’s hope no one got misgendered during the conversation. That’s the important part.


3 posted on 01/31/2025 12:38:22 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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To: Morgana

Looks like a near-perfect closing solution to me.


4 posted on 01/31/2025 12:46:35 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Morgana
The helicopter's path remained relatively straight while the American Airlines flight veered to make its landing, and the two collided.

That is not how I would describe the helicopter's path. And Standard ceiling of helicopters in that air space was top at 200 feet. The collision was said to have been at 400 feet. (assuming that the altimeter on the helicopter was correct, it should never have happened. Terrain in the Potomac river area would affect the reading in one instance, but the chopper was always over the water and it was at the collision.)

Whole string of very costly errors.

6 posted on 01/31/2025 1:18:38 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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I want the NAMES and PICTURES of the ATC people AND the Helicopter crew!!


13 posted on 01/31/2025 3:14:59 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Morgana

So it was ATC’s fault?


14 posted on 01/31/2025 3:38:52 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: Morgana

ATC requests HH heading and altitude.

HH reports heading and altitude.

ATC to HH: Do you see airliner at your 10 o’clock and . . . ?

ATC to HH: Hover and hold your present position.


27 posted on 01/31/2025 4:09:03 AM PST by linMcHlp
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My past included Air Traffic Control for the USMC. It caught my eye the controllers have been sending out a number of - we were understaffed, we were short handed, the controller was doing the job of 2 controllers, type stories for the press.

Air traffic control will take a good bit of the hit on this one. I wonder if the helicopter pilot was told simply to just stop/hover in place.


34 posted on 01/31/2025 4:56:28 AM PST by Jolla
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This is even worse than we thought. A 2 min video on DEI in the FAA...

https://x.com/JohnStrandUSA/status/1885173868916052041


35 posted on 01/31/2025 4:58:00 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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