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To: Morgana
The helicopter's path remained relatively straight while the American Airlines flight veered to make its landing, and the two collided.

That is not how I would describe the helicopter's path. And Standard ceiling of helicopters in that air space was top at 200 feet. The collision was said to have been at 400 feet. (assuming that the altimeter on the helicopter was correct, it should never have happened. Terrain in the Potomac river area would affect the reading in one instance, but the chopper was always over the water and it was at the collision.)

Whole string of very costly errors.

6 posted on 01/31/2025 1:18:38 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil
errors

- TBD

7 posted on 01/31/2025 1:21:41 AM PST by 11th_VA (THANKS Elon)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Whole string of very costly errors.”

I don’t think it was an error to turn into the aircraft’s flight path and climb double the helicopter’s ceiling to intercept the aircraft. Seems pretty D-d intentional to me.

Reminds me of the homosexual German passenger jet pilot who flew his flight into the ground in an act of spite.

When ppl put their choice of sexual gratification above their duties and obligations it’s quite obvious they intend to impart the consequences to others.

Seems pretty clear what the remedy is.


24 posted on 01/31/2025 4:05:03 AM PST by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: Texas Fossil

OK..
Basic traffic rules at an airport...
Once you are cleared to land YOU HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY!!!
Period.
It is up to the atc and other pilots to get and stay the hell out of the way...
This did not happen, the helo pilot was not even acknowledging commands from the atc.


43 posted on 01/31/2025 5:40:17 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Texas Fossil
An experienced air traffic controller told DailyMail.com that the air traffic control (ATC) audio that emerged from
the crash showed the operator's instructions to the helicopter were 'very ambiguous.'

As an experienced air traffic controller with 30 years in FAA Terminal Towers and Approach control, I agree with this assessment.

1. The FAA Order 7110.65 delineates the correct verbiage to be used with "visual separation" and the exchange between the
two actors isn't even close.

2. The FLM (Supervisor) releasing another controller earlier and combining the Local Control (Tower) with Ground Control
during a congested traffic period is nuts. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the Supervisor was DEI as well.

48 posted on 01/31/2025 6:50:13 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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