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Elon Musk to far-right German political party: ‘There is too much focus on past guilt’
The Forward ^ | January 26, 2025 | By Philissa Cramer

Posted on 01/27/2025 8:56:14 AM PST by Miami Rebel

(JTA) — Days after stoking controversy by delivering what some believed to be a Nazi salute and making Holocaust jokes, Elon Musk appeared at a campaign rally for a far-right German political party to tell supporters to be proud of their heritage.

Musk’s appearance Saturday at the rally for Alternative for Germany, known as AfD, was unadvertised and came by video. It was the second time in as many weeks that the world’s richest man and close ally of new U.S. President Donald Trump has appeared alongside Alice Weidel, the party’s candidate for chancellor in Germany’s Feb. 23 election.

During his speech, Musk told a cheering crowd of 4,500 that he believed the AfD was “the best hope for Germany.” He also alluded to Germany’s history.

“There is too much focus on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that. Children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their great-grandparents,” Musk said.

He added that he believed the party could “preserve” and “protect” German culture, which he implied was facing a threat.

“It’s good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything,” Musk said.

The rally is set to be AfD’s largest before next month’s elections, in which the party is polling in second place. The rally took place in Halle, the eastern Germany city where a far-right extremist attacked a synagogue on Yom Kippur in 2019.

Musk’s appearance at the rally comes days after he twice made a straight-armed gesture at a Trump inauguration event that ignited comparisons to the Nazi “Sieg Heil” salute. After some arbiters of antisemitism said they would give him the benefit of the doubt, Musk posted a series of Holocaust jokes on X, the social network that he owns.

The entire saga followed Musk’s recent endorsement of AfD, which has found increasing traction in Germany with its anti-immigrant, pro-Russia and anti-European Union platform. Some of its politicians have also downplayed the Holocaust, and German courts have fined one of its regional leaders, Björn Höcke, multiple times for using the Nazi-era phrase “Alles für Deutschland,” or Everything for Germany.

Musk hosted Weidel for a livestream on X earlier this month. During the call, Weidel falsely claimed that Adolf Hitler was a communist in a bid to distance AfD’s politics from the Nazis’.

Musk’s appearance at the AfD rally caused at least some Jews who said they had previously given Musk the benefit of the doubt to condemn him.

“There I was. Joining the chorus calling the left ridiculous because of a poorly orchestrated arm gesture. And then this happens, coupled with a few Holocaust zingers on Twitter in terrible taste, and now, I’m not so sure who is ridiculous, or if in fact we are all being played,” Blake Flayton, a pro-Israel influencer, posted on Instagram.


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KEYWORDS: adf; afdareleftists; antisemitism; auschwitz; concerntroll; concerntrolling; cryharder; eussr; fourthreich; kkk; mds; musk; muskkk; neonazis; notrightwing; wahhhh
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Germans are rightly sensitive to minimizing the legacy of Jew-hating in its history. Throughout the country, even in small towns and villages, memorials to deported and murdered Jews, in the form of stolpersteine, or stumbling stones, provide a jarring reminder of the toll taken by the Hitler regime.

Musk's joking minimization of the Nazi past and his cozying up to a party rooted in anti-semitism are despicable. AfD party leaders speak rhapsodically of Vaterland and Volk, buzzwords the Nazis regularly deployed, and have decried the Berlin Holocaust Memorial as a laughable abomination.

1 posted on 01/27/2025 8:56:14 AM PST by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel

Another dishonest “nazi salute” reference. I hate these people.


2 posted on 01/27/2025 8:59:38 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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To: Miami Rebel

Where, exactly, did Musk joke about the Holocaust?


3 posted on 01/27/2025 9:00:26 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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>> caused at least some Jews ... to condemn him.

whatever — self-importance trumps the sober reality every time


4 posted on 01/27/2025 9:02:21 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Miami Rebel

Google search: site:forward.com “far right”
About 23,900 results

Google search: site:forward.com “far left”
About 1,560 results


5 posted on 01/27/2025 9:04:13 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: HIDEK6
Another dishonest “nazi salute” reference.

And yet another reference to the "far-right".

6 posted on 01/27/2025 9:04:31 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Frank Drebin

“Where, exactly, did Musk joke about the Holocaust?”

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Tweeted Musk last week: “Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies.”

“His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,” and added a laughing emoji.


7 posted on 01/27/2025 9:06:46 AM PST by Miami Rebel (pro-)
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To: Miami Rebel

“German values”

Militarism
Mass murder
The Sprockets


8 posted on 01/27/2025 9:08:31 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Miami Rebel

I am not seeing a joke about killing millions of people in there. Was there another post where he joked about the murder of millions of human beings?


9 posted on 01/27/2025 9:09:50 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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AfD party leaders speak rhapsodically of Vaterland and Volk

Yes, they love their land and their people. So do I. So do Israelis.

Is there something wrong with that?

Or, to put it another way, if they DO NOT love their land and their people, what do you expect to happen to them? If we do not love our land and our people (for the sake of this discussion I presume you are an American), what do you expect to happen to us?

And if Israelis do not love their land and their people, what do you imagine will be their fate?

10 posted on 01/27/2025 9:10:06 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Miami Rebel

Follow revisionist history. It will alway bring you back to leftist atrocities being blamed on some ‘far right’.


11 posted on 01/27/2025 9:11:21 AM PST by Track9 (Make haste slowly. )
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To: Miami Rebel

The NAZIs were Socialist, not “Far Right.”


12 posted on 01/27/2025 9:11:21 AM PST by Cold_Red_Steel
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To: Miami Rebel

GFY. Go join the libtards


13 posted on 01/27/2025 9:13:25 AM PST by TheConservator
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To: Miami Rebel

“ and now, I’m not so sure who is ridiculous, or if in fact we are all being played,” Blake Flayton.”

You’re being played.

L


14 posted on 01/27/2025 9:19:23 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Jim Noble

It takes a certain level of obtuseness to conflate Völkism with Patriotismus.

No German has a problem distinguishing the two, which probably underlines the benefit of autistic American multi-billionaires keeping out of German politics.


15 posted on 01/27/2025 9:21:13 AM PST by Miami Rebel (pro-)
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To: Cold_Red_Steel

We can agree that whether far-left or far-right, Nazis were virulent Jew-haters.

For a modern German party to echo Nazi themew is troubling.


16 posted on 01/27/2025 9:23:40 AM PST by Miami Rebel (pro-)
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To: Miami Rebel

Saying this just days after giving a “nazi salute” does not improve the image sheeple have of him.


17 posted on 01/27/2025 9:24:11 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Man made Climate Change is Real. Cal. Officials responsible for the fires just proved it.)
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To: Miami Rebel

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18 posted on 01/27/2025 9:26:31 AM PST by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Miami Rebel

He wasn’t “jokingly minimizing” the Nazi past. Where are you coming up with this stupidity?

World War II ended 80 years ago. No German in 2025 is responsible for what happened in the past, nor should they feel shame for it. Feeling ashamed for what someone ELSE did is ridiculous. It shouldn’t be taboo to be proud to be German.


19 posted on 01/27/2025 9:30:17 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

NO ONE HAS CLAIMED LIVING GERMANS ARE RESPONSIBLE.

Where do you come up with that?

National history does NOT equal shame. A German teen today is no more responsible for the Holocaust than an American kid is for the Wounded Knee massacre.

It’s weird how people who defend retaining monuments so as not to forget US history find a society that rigorously teaches its own history is somehow misguided.

(By the way, the Japanese have largely ignored or downplayed their country’s atrocities, so I guess that by you lights they are more enlightened.)


20 posted on 01/27/2025 9:38:21 AM PST by Miami Rebel (pro-)
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