DeepSeek hit by outages as users flock to Chinese AI startup

Reuters ^ | January 27, 2025 | Staff

[BenLurkin]

[Red Badger]

Yep...................

[Deaf Smith]

“became the top rated free application”

FREE comes with a price, that price most likely is a spy tool.

[jroehl]

https://www.deepseekv3.net/en/chat

Says:

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Is there any way that you can think of to fake AI?

An old Chinese curse, “May you live in interesting times.”

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "FREE comes with a price, that price most likely is a spy tool."

Delete "most likely." It is a spy tool.

Consider how many online apps and updates and all the rest are accompanied by sales pitches and how many websites -- even ostensible conservative sites -- begin their pitches with "input name and email" and the like.

The CCP is no fool. They watch and learn. And they are offering FREE, just as do so many social media sites, busy with their own "collections."

We should remember "we" are the data as well as the access they want.

[Eccl 10:2]

Amazing that this comes out the first week of Trump’s presidency.

Too amazing. I call BS.

Same tactic as the Covid hoax.

[PIF]

They could suck off all of a user’s data to build their Collections - here it is very important to recall that ALL companies in China are beholden to the CCP and ALL companies are entangled with the PLA.

This is a program instituted by Xi Jinping called Civilian-Military Fusion - what each has, is given to the other.

So your data goes directly to the PLA for their fun and enjoyment to include your passwords, bank accounts, credit cards, email lists and names etc.

Enjoy your cutting edge AI experience!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepSeek

[vpintheak]

Why the hell do people flock to Chinese spyware crap, like flies to crap!? Absolute morons.

[pepsi_junkie]

I get suspicion with China but this isn't some software package that you download and run. It's a model that you run in your own infrastructure and applications. It's a different tech AND they released the code and they model weights (the inner design parameters) as free open source. There is a concern with bias (the commies used suspect training data that represents their world view - ask it about Taiwan for example and you get no nuance, it's part of China - period , for example). So you might think 'can it be trusted or is it trying to influence us subtly' maybe but I think the traditional idea of spyware isn't relevant.

Let's face it: China isn't eating our lunch on AI but it's certainly pacing us neck and neck and they may be leading in some ways.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

Our data goes less far than many. We have no "social media" accounts, don't freely hand out access, and our spam -- whether in inbox or snail mail -- is very limited.

Until such time as the average Joe learns "free" isn't free, the "morons" ( as a following comment call them ) will give access as they will.

Have you a geopolitical solution? We've adopted a most personal solution.

[gattaca]

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[LittleBillyInfidel]

“DeepSeek”?

The Chinese either need to work on their branding or they just don’t care to hide it anymore - because they know we will download anything.

[Myrddin]

Scalability matters. I built a desktop version of a system that could handle 100% functionality of the enterprise version. The company execs used my desktop version to show venture capitalists what could be done. My little boxes would handle about 10 users concurrently. The enterprise level scaling was for 250,000 customers to be rolled out in 6 months. The rooms full of H1B hires failed spectacularly. They weren't ready to go in time and the startup died.

My point in sharing that experience is that the DeepSeek platform is much like my desktop version of the enterprise. It works well, but is already demonstrating problems of scalability and processing volume. It costs real money to build powerful infrastructure that can stand up to heavy processing loads.

[sauropod]

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[Red Badger]

Maybe because it sounds like ‘Deep Six’..............

[RoosterRedux]

So your data goes directly to the PLA for their fun and enjoyment to include your passwords, bank accounts, credit cards, email lists and names etc.

How would they get that information without hacking your computer?

[PIF]

How would they get that information without hacking your computer?

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when you sign up, you have to agree to certain permissions ( aka, Terms of Service ) - which allow them to harvest.

[RoosterRedux]

They can’t access any data on your computer unless you explicitly allow them access to it. The only data they might harvest is what you choose to share directly on their AI platform. That’s it!

[VAFreedom]

so tiktok was a non issue as the chinese have red note and this deepseek as backup.

why dumb teens flocks to those sites?