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'What Are UFOs' Examines Our Fascination with the Unknown
Time Mag/MSN ^ | Jeffrey Kluger

Posted on 01/22/2025 9:41:19 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Nobody expected anything special when the squadron of Navy F/A-18 fighter jets headed out for routine aerial maneuvers off of the coast of Virginia Beach one day in 2013. The F/A-18s, a Naval workhorse, owned the local air space that day—but only until they didn’t.

All at once, the jets’ radar picked up a cluster of half a dozen objects flying along with them, moving erratically—and entirely acrobatically. At some moments they ripped along side-to-side at speeds exceeding 350 knots—or 402 mph. Then, suddenly, they would stand utterly still in winds that themselves were moving at 150 knots (172 mph)—gusts that had the jets struggling to maintain position. Then the objects would accelerate again. They had no visible exhaust, no discernible means of propulsion, and indeed looked nothing like any aircraft in the nation’s civilian or military arsenal.

Measuring five to 15 ft. across, they were a “dark gray or black cube inside a clear sphere,” former Navy Lieutenant Ryan Graves, who was aloft that day, tells TIME. “We almost hit one of the objects; they came within 50 ft. of the lead aircraft, and that's really when we knew we were dealing with something a bit abnormal here. There's no aircraft in our inventory I'm aware of that has the ability to operate at very low speeds, or no speeds, and then accelerate and operate like a fighter.”

That wasn’t the last time the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)—the genteel, modern-day term for Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO)—harrassed the Navy. “We saw them in Virginia Beach between 2013 and 2015,” says Graves. “Later, when we executed training operations aboard the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt off the coast of Jacksonville, Fla., they were either already down there or they had followed us down, because we had over a dozen incidents...

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: fa18; florida; fringe; jacksonville; ohsomysteriouso; ryangraves; uap; ufo; ufos; usstheodoreroosevelt; virginia; virginiabeach
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To: RoosterRedux

I think I would be more surprised to find out that we are the only ones in the universe.


41 posted on 01/22/2025 3:37:03 PM PST by fini
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To: Vaduz

You never answer questions coherently. How about just one? The last one for example?


42 posted on 01/22/2025 4:49:00 PM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: Vaduz

What do you believe? Or are you just a troll?


43 posted on 01/22/2025 4:51:21 PM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

There’s proof but mj12/cia/certain military are not going to reveal it to the public.


44 posted on 01/23/2025 3:21:35 AM PST by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux

What do you believe?

REALITY not things that don’t exist.


45 posted on 01/23/2025 5:18:01 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: cgbg

Look for pods in basement

1. There is an unidentified phenomenon interacting with the current
human population on Earth


46 posted on 01/23/2025 5:19:44 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz
When you say "things that don't exist," what are you referring to specifically?

Has anyone on this thread demonstrated a belief in things that do not exist?

47 posted on 01/23/2025 5:38:25 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: Vaduz; cgbg
There is an unidentified phenomenon interacting with the current human population on Earth

That's what some people (including many scientists and military) are saying. Is it okay with you if people on this thread speculate about such things? Speculating, exploring, and chatting about such things does not constitute a "belief."

You keep creating straw men who "believe" so you can complain about them. If you are offended by the discussions on these threads, don't read them...no one is forcing you to read them.

48 posted on 01/23/2025 5:52:02 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: cgbg
Check out this 2:45 minute trailer for "The Age of Disclosure" video
49 posted on 01/23/2025 6:00:26 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

One investigator that is outside the usual suspects—a life of analysis that has a little different angle on things—Michael Schratt:

https://rumble.com/v64dy3v-secret-military-technology-vs-real-et-crafts-and-alien-abductions-ufo-docum.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp


50 posted on 01/23/2025 6:25:51 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Like the guy in the military said they had a UFO and a ET body...

Nets ensue

Better see a shrink you need it.


51 posted on 01/23/2025 7:03:55 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: RoosterRedux

You need help see a shrink.


52 posted on 01/23/2025 7:04:28 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: cgbg

Yep. I’ve seen him on some podcasts. He was interviewed by Dolan last year IIRC. Interesting guy.


53 posted on 01/23/2025 7:08:55 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: Vaduz

This guy was a Harvard professor shrink:

https://www.amazon.com/Abduction-Encounters-Aliens-John-Mack/dp/1416575804


54 posted on 01/23/2025 7:10:58 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: Vaduz

Read the manual:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZERORAPID/comments/18b5rhd/mj12_special_operations_manual_crash_retrieval/


55 posted on 01/23/2025 7:12:06 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: Vaduz

Now you’re resorting to ad hominem attacks. Do you know what that says about the person who engages in them?

It means when they can’t defend their position with logic, they get emotional—hence, the personal attacks. You can do better than that.


56 posted on 01/23/2025 7:26:16 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: cgbg

LOL. I wish I could see Mack for a session.


57 posted on 01/23/2025 7:27:47 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

Your making yourself picayune go away.


58 posted on 01/23/2025 7:34:47 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: cgbg

He needs shrink his license is in question.


59 posted on 01/23/2025 7:36:03 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

Go away? Sorry, but I’m the OP on this thread. I’m staying right here.;-)


60 posted on 01/23/2025 7:40:35 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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