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'What Are UFOs' Examines Our Fascination with the Unknown
Time Mag/MSN ^ | Jeffrey Kluger

Posted on 01/22/2025 9:41:19 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Nobody expected anything special when the squadron of Navy F/A-18 fighter jets headed out for routine aerial maneuvers off of the coast of Virginia Beach one day in 2013. The F/A-18s, a Naval workhorse, owned the local air space that day—but only until they didn’t.

All at once, the jets’ radar picked up a cluster of half a dozen objects flying along with them, moving erratically—and entirely acrobatically. At some moments they ripped along side-to-side at speeds exceeding 350 knots—or 402 mph. Then, suddenly, they would stand utterly still in winds that themselves were moving at 150 knots (172 mph)—gusts that had the jets struggling to maintain position. Then the objects would accelerate again. They had no visible exhaust, no discernible means of propulsion, and indeed looked nothing like any aircraft in the nation’s civilian or military arsenal.

Measuring five to 15 ft. across, they were a “dark gray or black cube inside a clear sphere,” former Navy Lieutenant Ryan Graves, who was aloft that day, tells TIME. “We almost hit one of the objects; they came within 50 ft. of the lead aircraft, and that's really when we knew we were dealing with something a bit abnormal here. There's no aircraft in our inventory I'm aware of that has the ability to operate at very low speeds, or no speeds, and then accelerate and operate like a fighter.”

That wasn’t the last time the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)—the genteel, modern-day term for Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO)—harrassed the Navy. “We saw them in Virginia Beach between 2013 and 2015,” says Graves. “Later, when we executed training operations aboard the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt off the coast of Jacksonville, Fla., they were either already down there or they had followed us down, because we had over a dozen incidents...

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: fa18; florida; fringe; jacksonville; ohsomysteriouso; ryangraves; uap; ufo; ufos; usstheodoreroosevelt; virginia; virginiabeach
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1 posted on 01/22/2025 9:41:19 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

E.T phone home.


2 posted on 01/22/2025 9:42:20 AM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Openurmind; Churchjack; eastforker; Levy78; maddog55; Jonty30; GingisK; Mark17; spirited irish; ...

Ping to: “’What Are UFOs’ Examines Our Fascination with the Unknown/Time Magazine”


3 posted on 01/22/2025 9:42:56 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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Those videos, known popularly as “the Gimbal,” after the objects’ pinwheeling motion, are just part of the eyewitness visuals featured in the new PBS NOVA documentary “What Are UFOs?” premiering on PBS stations on Jan. 22.
4 posted on 01/22/2025 9:45:57 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

Foo Fighters is a much better name for them.


5 posted on 01/22/2025 9:47:44 AM PST by packagingguy
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Disclaimer: Like many of us on these UFO threads, I’ve drawn no conclusions about what UFOs are or who, if anyone, might be piloting or controlling them. I simply share these articles for those interested in the subject.

To the trolls desperate to shut down these discussions: please stop with the "true believer" accusations. The only true believers here seem to be those who are absolutely certain about what UFOs are not—classic examples of Dunning-Kruger overconfidence.

6 posted on 01/22/2025 9:53:56 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

I lived and was later stationed at Roswell NM (Walker AFB) in 1959-1967. I never heard of any UFO nonsense till the base was closed and Roswell needed a new source of income, so they went after the tourists with claims of UFOs. Other towns also grabbed onto the UFO shtick like Aztec NM.
In that time the tabloids were full of UFO stories and some magazines fabricated claims to get their readership up. You would think that after over sixty five years we would have proof by now.


7 posted on 01/22/2025 9:57:36 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: RoosterRedux

Getting frustrated here. So many sightings. Not one “alien” ship or “being” openly displayed. Every visual recording is strangely just a snippet of a full blown detailed object or event.
If these reports keep on coming and nothing physical is produced for examination...the UFO’s or uap’s are going to fall into Bigfoot or Nessie, or Peter’s wolf territory.
Too bad, but that’s the nature of discovery.
Just sayin’


8 posted on 01/22/2025 10:00:16 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder tro find. )
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet testified before Congress on this subject.

He stated that he believes UAPs pose a significant threat to pilot and naval operational safety. In his testimony, he highlighted instances of near-midair collisions and the lack of follow-up or guidance for mitigating these risks. He criticized the absence of proper oversight and safety protocols to address UAP encounters, leaving pilots to handle such threats independently.

Gallaudet views this as a critical issue that compromises both military and civilian aviation safety and has called for greater transparency, investigation, and actionable measures to address these risks.

Source: Congress.gov

9 posted on 01/22/2025 10:05:50 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: Getready

And the government is determined to keep it that way.


10 posted on 01/22/2025 10:06:50 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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USAF Official statement:

"We have received and analyzed reports that have come to us from all kinds of sources. Of this great mass of reports we have been able adequately to explain the great bulk of them to our own satisfaction. We've been able to explain them as hoaxes, as erroneously identified friendly aircraft, as meteorological or electronic phenomena, or as light aberration.

"However there have been a certain percentage of this volume of reports that have been made by credible observers of relatively incredible things. It is this group of observations that we now are attempting to resolve.

"Our basic difficulty in dealing with these is that there is no measurement of them that makes it possible for us to put them in any pattern that would be profitable for a deliberate sort of analysis to take the next step.

"We have as of date come to only one firm conclusion with respect to this remaining percentage, and that is that it does not contain any pattern of purpose or of consistency that we can relate with any conceivable threat to the United States."

11 posted on 01/22/2025 10:06:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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"We have as of date come to only one firm conclusion with respect to this remaining percentage, and that is that it does not contain any pattern of purpose or of consistency that we can relate with any conceivable threat to the United States."

That's pretty much what they government has said about the drones.

"We don't know what the hell they are, but you citizens have no need to worry.

That's like a lifeguard at the beach saying, "We see a big unidentified fish in the water, but you swimmers are completely safe."

12 posted on 01/22/2025 10:14:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

.gov

“We don’t know what they are but we know they are friendly.”

Lol.

The only thing we do know with metaphysical certainty is that .gov is lying.


13 posted on 01/22/2025 10:18:25 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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The only thing we do know with metaphysical certainty is that .gov is lying.

But only when their lips are moving (or their finger are tapping on the keyboard).

14 posted on 01/22/2025 10:30:25 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

In the middle ages UFO’s looked like comets.

In the 50’s they looked like hub caps.

Now they look like quad-copters with FAA approved lighting.


15 posted on 01/22/2025 10:30:33 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: RoosterRedux

Ezekiel 1 “wheel within a wheel”.

????????


16 posted on 01/22/2025 10:33:57 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: SpaceBar
Here's what the pilots of the USS Roosevelt described:


17 posted on 01/22/2025 10:39:19 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
You would think that after over sixty five years we would have proof by now.

Its been over 2000 years, and we don't really have proof that Alexander The Great existed. All we have is circumstantial evidence.

18 posted on 01/22/2025 10:51:30 AM PST by GingisK
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To: RoosterRedux

Good post.


19 posted on 01/22/2025 10:58:33 AM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: Inyo-Mono

:-)


20 posted on 01/22/2025 11:03:59 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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