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Beyond my "paygrade," but such is part of a series of research that resulted from a post on Quora

Dating is a major issue btwn YEC's and the old earth camp. My proffered hypothesis is that as Adam and Eve were created as fully adult, like in a second of accelerated time, so would the earth, but when Adam sinned, and death came, then he and the rest would test to be far older.

1 posted on 01/19/2025 9:31:59 AM PST by daniel1212
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Matthew Pines answered this question beautifully.

If there are infinite possible universes and we are in one of them we could not know about our universe if there was nothing in it.

Since we do know about it there must be something in it.

There is no need to over complicate the analysis.


2 posted on 01/19/2025 9:35:27 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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YEC’s and the old earth

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doesn’t directly appear in the equations for time dilation, it represents a fundamental limit on the smallest measurable time interval in our universe. Understanding time dilation at the Planck scale is a major challenge in theoretical physics, and further research is needed to fully grasp its implications.
In simpler terms:
The Planck time is the smallest unit of time that has physical meaning in our universe.
Time dilation is a phenomenon where time passes slower for an observer in motion or in a strong gravitational field.
At the Planck scale (where space and time are incredibly small), the nature of time dilation and the very concept of time itself become complex and are still being explored by physicists.
Understanding time dilation at the Planck scale is a key goal of quantum gravity research, aiming to unify our understanding of gravity and quantum mechanics.


3 posted on 01/19/2025 9:41:46 AM PST by cuz1961
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Imagine that all that exists is by accident and without purpose.

Nonsense!

5 posted on 01/19/2025 9:43:24 AM PST by G Larry (Its RACIST to impose slave wages on LEGAL immigrants and minorities by importing cheap ILLEGAL labor)
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Just a little something.

It’s nothing, really.


6 posted on 01/19/2025 9:46:42 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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https://learn.ligonier.org/podcasts/ultimately-with-rc-sproul/out-of-nothing-nothing-comes

Ladies and gentlemen, if anything exists now—this is elementary—then there never could have been a time when there was nothing, because the most fundamental maxim of all reason and all science and all philosophy is the maxim, Ex nihilo nihil fit. “Out of nothing, nothing comes.”


a good theological exploration, worth the two minutes.


8 posted on 01/19/2025 9:49:05 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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If there were nothing, we wouldn’t be asking that question.


9 posted on 01/19/2025 9:49:17 AM PST by Salman (In Hell it is a punishable offense not to call it Heaven.)
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My take. The expansion rate of the early universe is 67 km per second per megaparsec. While the expansion rate of the nearby universe is about 73 km/sec/Mpc. In other words, the expansion seems to be accelerating.

Hmmmm.... that suggests to me that the oscillating universe models I was taught in school is off. If there are repeat big bangs, then the expansion after the most recent bang would be slowing down to eventually stop expanding, then start contracting, and wind back up in another point singularity to eventually bang again.

But the accelerating expansion suggests to me a one-time big bang. If all of the fine-tuning necessary for life ain't right this time, there's not infinite future big bangs hoping it's right some other time. This looks like evidence for design to me to make sure things are right in this only shot we get for life.

11 posted on 01/19/2025 9:56:46 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Either the universe always existed, or it was created. If it was created, it was by a being outside of the universe.

“Something from nothing” is not possible.


12 posted on 01/19/2025 9:57:56 AM PST by I want the USA back (Tomorrow the mean bitter old fart is sent to his basement in Delaware to write his 'memoirs'.)
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"Once again, this ignores quantum mechanics, in which events commonly occur without cause. This is the case for the atomic transitions that give us light and the nuclear decays that give us nuclear radiation. They all happen spontaneously, without cause."1

Just because we don't know the cause doesn't mean there is no cause.

13 posted on 01/19/2025 10:02:31 AM PST by BipolarBob (I've asked what LGBQT means and have yet to get a STRAIGHT answer.)
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No one ever hailed as a great philosopher or revelator by saying he has no idea what is going on.

And that is the reason none of the great philosophers admit that.


15 posted on 01/19/2025 10:12:49 AM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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Shouldn't they start with nothing into something first? It is in one of those "beyond all understanding" categories. The higher part of dust can be translated to atoms in this case.

. Proverbs 26
While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

23 posted on 01/19/2025 11:03:14 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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God is a being of more than 3 dimensions that exists in a world of more than 3 dimensions. Both God and his world have always existed. God then created our 3 dimensional universe that exists within his own higher dimensional universe. He can inject himself into our universe whenever he feels like it, any way he likes.


26 posted on 01/19/2025 11:26:00 AM PST by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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We exist and know only what is called Euclidean space, that is three physical dimensions and a concept of time related to that space.
My God transcends that space and our universe.
We were made in the image of God and we stole some but not
all of our worlds knowledge and built upon that.
God still watches over us, but it has to be by his rules as our incomplete understanding is so dangerous.
We kill each other for fun and profit what would we do to others totally alien?
Happy Sunday, I listened to a church sermon today as I do every Sunday.


27 posted on 01/19/2025 11:30:09 AM PST by rellic (no such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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....Atheists say they have the answer to why there is something rather than nothing—the nothing created it!....

Sorry, atheists—nothing comes from nothing!

“In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth!”


28 posted on 01/19/2025 11:34:09 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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it seems to me the explanation is much simpler than all that.

We were given an inspired message long ago.

“God is Light”

the full implication of that realization covers many, many aspects of divine presence in Cosmology, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, and Spiritual matters. (imho)


29 posted on 01/19/2025 11:43:45 AM PST by epluribus_2
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In my thinking, “nothing” requires a lot of explanation, “something”, hardly any at all.


30 posted on 01/19/2025 11:46:39 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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There never was nothing


32 posted on 01/19/2025 11:54:47 AM PST by conserv8
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One of the best things I ever read said basically, “Saying that the universe was by chance created from a big bang is like saying an explosion in a print shop resulted in the Webster’s unabridged dictionary.


34 posted on 01/19/2025 12:08:16 PM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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The genesis narrative does not explicitly say they were created fully adult


41 posted on 01/20/2025 1:52:53 AM PST by Cronos
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The genesis narrative does not explicitly say they were created fully adult


42 posted on 01/20/2025 1:52:58 AM PST by Cronos
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