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California couple fined $165,000 for damaging rare Central Coast flower habitat
SF Gate ^ | 1/18/2025 | Sam Mauhay-Moore

Posted on 01/19/2025 7:39:56 AM PST by cuz1961

California couple fined $165,000 for damaging rare Central Coast flower habitat.....

San Luis Obispo County District Attorney Dan Dow announced on Wednesday that his office had settled an environmental enforcement action against the couple, who agreed to pay $165,000 in civil penalties.

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... grows in small patches on private properties, according to the California Native Plant Society.

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(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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KEYWORDS: california; climatechangehoax; dandow; extortion; fines; lawfare; pismoclarkia; sanluisobispo
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To: cuz1961

Who ratted them out?


21 posted on 01/19/2025 8:19:34 AM PST by NoLongerTrappedInNY
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To: cuz1961

Hey, California Native Plant Society, nice building you got there. (Insert what should be following this...)

People lost their lives and homes because of crap like this.


22 posted on 01/19/2025 8:20:44 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: cuz1961

Eco Fascists need to be fired or sent to monitor Polar Bear Mating habitats in Barrow, Alaska if they have civil service protection


23 posted on 01/19/2025 8:21:36 AM PST by BigEdLB (Bye-bye Brandon)
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To: Hot Tabasco

It seems that the US Dept of Fish & Wildlife is in collusion with cali nuts to classify endangered weeds over other priorities. Refer to the list embedded in the PDF at source (almost exclusively in ca).

https://www.fws.gov/species-publication-action/initiation-5-year-status-reviews-40-species-california-nevada-and-11

It behooves the stupid living there to ensure that none of the species on this list exist on your property...particularly in advance of a purchase.


24 posted on 01/19/2025 8:21:48 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: cuz1961

This “endangered species” crap is just another way for government to eliminate private property. They’re sneaky. They have hated the Constitution all their lives, and have found a way to nullify it.


25 posted on 01/19/2025 8:24:20 AM PST by I want the USA back (2 days until the mean bitter old fart is sent to his basement in Delaware to write his 'memoirs'.)
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To: bk1000

So S, S, S?

Makes sense.


26 posted on 01/19/2025 8:24:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cuz1961
The crazy never stops. But when you live in a 21st Century Asylum, you should expect some crazy things to happen.

If a fire swept through the area and destroyed the plants, would the fine still stick?

27 posted on 01/19/2025 8:26:27 AM PST by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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To: Ronald77

“You own property, but do you have any rights to utilize it?”

Sure, after you pay thousands for an environmental impact study and inflated costs to relocate the species in question.

The minimal fines and punishment for environmental violations in Ca is $10,000 dollars and/or ten years in jail.


28 posted on 01/19/2025 8:32:20 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Jonny7797
you get what you vote for.

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. do we ?

shasta county had %50 of runbeck printed ballots that were unreadable , and had to be ‘ cured’ behind a locked door , cuz of ink over-spray that was invisible to the naked eye.

( what printer uses invisible ink , and has not enough quality control to catch it when it came off the printing machine. ? and how does that over-spray that was invisible, get over and on top of the ballots that were marked over and after said invisible ink ?

tell me again, whose votes are REALLY being counted ?

so sick of the voter and election fraud denial .

and the 100% gas light of

” you voted for this “

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29 posted on 01/19/2025 8:33:47 AM PST by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961

what next? No building, or mowing, or lawn maintenance if dandelions are discovered on lawns?


30 posted on 01/19/2025 8:40:56 AM PST by Bob434
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To: cuz1961; marktwain; Lazamataz; george76
I am probably the only person on FR who has restored substantial patches of Clarkia (not the Pismo flavor). It's a lot of work, but it beats assessing these people for $165 grand to feed a claque of bureaucrats without growing a single plant. The 2500sft patch below (photo taken in late June 2015) took about 11 years to develop from seed I collected from a single specimen along the County road. Virtually all of that work where I sowed it was weeding, 5-7 times a year that demands being able to recognize tiny weeds only a few millimeters tall, or to distingush grass species before seed appears. I promise you, there aren't five people in all of the Caifornia Native Plant Society that can do that. Maybe none. In other words, what these thugs want to see is something they don't know how to do themselves.

Every blade of grass you see here is native (almost all Bromus vulgaris). The grand mountain dandelions are Agoseris grandiflora, and you should see those with dew on them, as they're unbelievably gorgeous. Before the Clarkia comes up is a crop of native clover (Trifolium wildenovii). There is also a mix of Madia exigua in it too. In other words, for these plants to express this kind of beauty demands understanding and redeveloping an entire plant community that is beyond the technical capability of most of the zealots in CNPS!

Given the illegitimate regulatory environment these landowners face, they would have been better served had they started growing some in anonther location on their property. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not into forcing anybody to do something that demanding. I am saying that CNPS and the bureaucrats are doing more damage to native plant habitat with this heavy-handed approach. Helping people grow the stuff and learn to appreciate what they moved into the area to enjoy works better. Had the eco-NAZIs approached the situation rationally, the plant would not be rare.

In this case, grading could actually be advantageous to Clarkia, as long as they're willing to weed it aggressively. It's exotics that are the usual threat to this plant, not soil disturbance that can actually help it.

31 posted on 01/19/2025 8:53:29 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: cuz1961

I would bet that if there was a person who wanted to build a housing project for retired democrat bureaucrats it would be ok.


32 posted on 01/19/2025 8:54:00 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder tro find. )
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To: BenLurkin

This is common in CaCaLand. Make-believe “endangered” whatevers are used by treehugger commies to bully. Typical commie trash behavior.


33 posted on 01/19/2025 8:58:29 AM PST by bobbo666
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To: Carry_Okie

Thank you for that very informative post.


34 posted on 01/19/2025 9:08:57 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: married21

Thank you. You can learn more about our project at wildergarten.org.


35 posted on 01/19/2025 9:14:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: cuz1961

Too bad California’s Government doesn’t worry as much about its citizens as it does for flowers. I wonder who they will fine for any flower destroyed by those wildfires ... probably those folks who lost their homes and there happened to be a rare flower growing on their property.


36 posted on 01/19/2025 9:23:01 AM PST by antidemoncrat ( )
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To: logi_cal869

I lived in NEVADA COUNTY—N CALIF for 12 years.

The DRUG ADDLED CRAZIES on the COUNTY SUPERVISORS BOARD decided that “WE” needed to INVENTORY EVERY BIRD/BEE/ INSECT/ BUSH/TREE in the County.

ONLY THE TREES & BRUSH ARE STATIONARY—the rest are VERY MIGRATORY.

THEN-—”THEY” would determine HOW “WE” COULD USE OUR PROPERTIES.

MANY PROPERTY OWNERS IN NEVADA COUNTY ARE MULTI-GENERATION PROPERTY OWNERS.

AN UPROAR ENSUED.

THEY ALSO STATED THE “VOLUNTEERS” WOULD BE ENTERING OUR LAND WITHOUT ANY NOTICE OR PERMISSION. IF THOSE VOLUNTEERS GOT ANY INJURY DOING THAT-—WE WOULD BE LIABLE.

BIGGER UPROAR.

FIGHTING BACK:

NOT GIVING ANYONE PERMISSION TO BE ON MY PROPERTY-—HORSES RULE THERE-—AND WHO CAN PROMISE THERE WILL NO GATES LEFT OPEN? ALL MY GATES WERE CHAINED & PADLOCKED. ALL MY HORSES WILL RACE DOWN TO SEE IF “INVADERS” HAVE ANY TREATS. MY HORSE WILL NOT ATTACK-BUT some RETIRED GERIATRIC CITY PROFESSOR COULD HAVE A HEART ATTACK......

MADE THAT DEMAND IN WRITING FOR DECLARATION ON RECORD.

THIS IS A CLEAR TAKING: We were given permission by the county with ZONING rules & BUILDING PERMITS -—which we had to PAY FOR & ABIDE BY. THEY COULD NOT CHANGE THE RULES RETROACTIVELY-—PERIOD. We HAD MADE INVESTMENTS IN HOMES/ SHELTERS/FENCING and other IMPROVEMENTS. COUNTY DIDN’T PAY FOR ALL THAT LABOR/MATERIALS

ALSO-—IF I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY TO HAVE MY HORSES—WHICH I DID-—IF YOU RESTRICT THAT USAGE-—THAT IS A CLEAR “TAKING” & THE COUNTY MUST PAY ME FOR MY “LOSS OF USAGE”. AT CURRENT MARKET VALUES.

PACIFIC LEGAL FOUNDATION SUPPORTED US.

THE “INVENTORY” PLANS FINALLY DIED.

DURING THE MEETINGS-—THE ROOM WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY. LOTS OF HORSES IN NEVADA COUNTY-—ALONG WITH A FEW LARGE ORCHARDS & A WINERY.


37 posted on 01/19/2025 9:24:45 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Openurmind

THE SEEDS STILL FLY IN THE WIND


38 posted on 01/19/2025 9:25:32 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Leaning Right
I'll flip the script. It is a plant. Grow it indoors. Make it a house plant. Sell it at a fabulous markup. Make it the perfect plant for giving at weddings, to be planted at the first house. In a few years we'll be trying to get rid of them.

I live where Venus fly traps grow as well as another carnivorous plant. They are very particular in their needs, but you can keep them as a house plant. I had one for several years with no problems.

39 posted on 01/19/2025 10:08:19 AM PST by fini
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To: redfreedom

SeeBS Sunday show had a “climate expert” explaining how fires have changed and are now “more intense” than ever before! What? I’ve seen some BS on that show before but that was crazy nuts. Not once did they mention the true cause of the fire; incompetent elected idiots, arsonists and failure to clear brush and grass. Boy, one day before Trump is back and the SeeBS folks are giving their best PT Barnum showing!


40 posted on 01/19/2025 10:17:00 AM PST by 9422WMR
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