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George Pickett was born 200 years ago today (vanity)
1/16/25

Posted on 01/16/2025 8:57:54 AM PST by Borges



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KEYWORDS: gettysburg; insurancesalesman; pickettscharge; thecivilwar
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U.S. a major general. Best known for the notorious Pickett's Charge in the Battle of Gettysburg. Nothing at all in the news about the date.
1 posted on 01/16/2025 8:57:54 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

It’s also Frank Zamboni’s birthday.................


2 posted on 01/16/2025 9:00:09 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Borges

“General Pickett, you must look to your division, sir.”
“General Lee, I have no division.”


3 posted on 01/16/2025 9:02:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Blame JEB Stuart. He wasn’t there to turn the3 Northerners flanks when Lee needed him.


4 posted on 01/16/2025 9:08:48 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Call me crazy, but I’m glad the Dims lost the Civil War.


5 posted on 01/16/2025 9:16:48 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

they have been winning it for the last 50 years or so. That’s what the ultimate fruit of the democrat enterprise is after all. The crack-up of the union.


6 posted on 01/16/2025 9:18:49 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Borges

Almost exactly one year younger than Stonewall Jackson (born Jan. 21, 1824).


7 posted on 01/16/2025 9:23:37 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Borges

Thanks for this. I haven’t thought about him in perhaps years. Pickett’s Charge was absolutely tragic. Shouldn’t be forgotten.


8 posted on 01/16/2025 9:30:23 AM PST by mairdie
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To: Borges

He was a CSA Major General.


9 posted on 01/16/2025 9:33:10 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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To: Tell It Right
Call me crazy, but I’m glad the Dims lost the Civil War.

Is it because you have looked at all the factors involved and arrived at this as the best outcome, or is it because this conforms to the propaganda you've been taught all your life?

I mean you could be a thoughtful and thorough person who has gone to the trouble of understanding exactly what happened and why, but the safer bet is you just believe what the government has told us for the last 160 years.

10 posted on 01/16/2025 9:33:51 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Tell It Right
Call me crazy, but I’m glad the Dims lost the Civil War

The Dims of the 1850s/1860s are somewhat different than the Dems of today.

11 posted on 01/16/2025 9:35:52 AM PST by Fury
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Wilson Pickett died January 19, 2006


12 posted on 01/16/2025 9:35:57 AM PST by OldHarbor
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To: BenLurkin

You’d think Robert E. Lee, who was truly a top-notch general, would have understood why a massed charge straight up hill was a terrible idea given the Battle of Bunker Hill experience by the British (the British Army got repulsed twice charging up Breed’s Hill with heavy losses and only succeeded on the third try because the Continental Army ran out of ammunition). Lee should have attempted on more flanking attack before attempting the charge lead by George Pickett in the first place.


13 posted on 01/16/2025 9:47:06 AM PST by RayChuang88 (.FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: DiogenesLamp

” Gettysburgh was the price the South had to pay for having Robert E. Lee.” Longstreat begged him not to do it, as bad as the Union charge at Cold Harbor.


14 posted on 01/16/2025 10:20:57 AM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING 0F AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Quote eas Shelby Foote.


15 posted on 01/16/2025 10:21:34 AM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING 0F AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: RayChuang88
"You’d think Robert E. Lee, who was truly a top-notch general, would have understood why a massed charge straight up hill was a terrible idea...Lee should have attempted on more flanking attack before attempting the charge lead by George Pickett in the first place."

I went to Gettysburg College from 1987-1991. As a young ROTC cadet, I spent a lot of time walking, jogging and driving around the battlefield. That stretch of land between Seminary Ridge and Cemetery Ridge is visually very deceptive when viewed from the Confederate lines. When viewed from what is now Confederate Avenue, the terrain leading to the Union lines now represented by Hancock Ave appears much shorter and flatter than it actually is. When you go over the Union lines and look back, you realize the terrain advantage held by the Union. I can't help but think that the optical illusion (for lack of a better term) presented by the view from the Confederate lines contributed to the decision to make the charge.

16 posted on 01/16/2025 10:33:21 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Borges
Deo vindice
17 posted on 01/16/2025 10:38:30 AM PST by Prospero (Lex est rex)
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To: Fury; DiogenesLamp
The Dims of the 1850s/1860s are somewhat different than the Dems of today.

IMHO, the southern states (Dim controlled) had the right to seceded if they wanted to. The U.S. didn't have the right to stop them, whether it was about slavery or anything else.

But since I wasn't around to tell the Republicans that and I can't change the fact that the north (Republicans) started the war, I'm glad that the Dims didn't win the war. Not only was slavery wrong, the Dims had been, shortly before the war, making slavery a federal issue. They had been eroding states' rights trying to make abolition illegal everywhere, or at least hard to implement. Much like Dims today have made abortion a federal issue (Roe v Wade, Case vs Planned Parenthood) until the recent Dobbs decision.

Look at the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 and how that impacted the free states. U.S. Marshalls were going into free states to hunt blacks and arrest them and transport them to the south, just on the chance that he looked like the description of the man they were looking for. And even that often had dubious origins: a slaveowner had to just claim that a slave had run away from him, showing no proof of ownership of anything, and like a magic a free black man from a free state was captured and brought to the slave owner like a gift. If you were a white man in a free state and suspected of harboring slaves (which meant having free black friends you'd grown up with and went to church with) you could spend 6 months in jail and be fined $1K (a lot of money back then).

This was followed by the 1857 Dredd Scott decision by SCOTUS (Dim majority). It declared that blacks could never be citizens, and that all territory west of Missouri was slave territory.

And the Dims had the audacity to later cry out that the 1860 election was about abolitionist Republicans forcing their ways onto people. Even with Lincoln many times saying that abolition wasn't going to be federally mandated, that he just wanted to get the federal govt out of the way so states could go back to choosing to being abolitionist if they wanted. Very much like Trump today saying he's not forcing pro-life laws at the federal level -- he's happy with the federal govt now out of the way and letting states decide on pro-life vs abortion. And the Dims today crying out that the Republicans are trying to rid abortion at the federal level and nobody can kill their baby, just like their Dim predecessors cried out, falsely, that Lincoln was trying to make abolition the law of the land (which he wasn't until the southern states seceded).

Another reminder that the Dims today are like the Dims of the 1850's: "It's not a person, it's just a clump of cells." Just like: "It's not a person. It's property." Then, just like now, the Dims define as non-persons anyone they don't like. If the Dims want you to have no rights, then you're just property, or just a clump of cells, or a NAZI, or supremacist, etc.

This dehumanization was heavily jumped on by abolitionist preacher Pastor Theodore Weld. Read his 1837 book The Bible Against Slavery, starting at page 17. "We repeat it, THE REDUCTION OF PERSONS TO THINGS!" and later "That this is American slavery is shown by the laws of slave States. Judge Stroud, in his 'Sketch of the Laws relating to Slavery,' says, 'The cardinal principle of slavery, that the slave is not to be ranked among sentient beings, bat among things, obtains as undoubted law in all of these [the slave] States.'"

For traveling and giving speeches against slavery, Pastor Weld earned the nickname "Most mugged man in America". Such as the Dims were violent then, much like today.

18 posted on 01/16/2025 10:58:34 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: RayChuang88

“You’d think Robert E. Lee, who was truly a top-notch general, would have understood why a massed charge straight up hill was a terrible idea given the Battle of Bunker Hill experience”

I have been there many times. The land is essentially flat. It was the distance, not the elevation.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/maps/gettysburg-animated-map

Great video. At the end immediately following a screen filling, waving American flag, (hit pause) you can see a drone view of the battlefield. Flat farm fields.


19 posted on 01/16/2025 11:14:10 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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Late in his life, when he was asked for the umpteenth time, “why do you think that the charge failed?”, Pickett finally answered, “I think the Yankees had something to do with it.”


20 posted on 01/16/2025 11:29:14 AM PST by HandyDandy (“Borders, language and culture.” Michael Savage)
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