Posted on 01/15/2025 10:14:05 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Marco Rubio said that both Russia and Ukraine will have to make “concessions” in order to reach the peace deal promised by Donald Trump as he offered a full-throated defense of the president-elect’s vision for America’s role around the world – and his own hawkish record on foreign policy.
Rubio, Trump’s nominee for secretary of state, told the Senate foreign relations committee that the war in Ukraine had become a “stalemate” and “has to end”; that the US should show China that it would pay “too high” a price for invading Taiwan; and that European countries have to stop treating US support for Nato as an “excuse to … spend on domestic needs”.
Speaking on the war in Ukraine, which Trump had vowed to end within 24 hours of taking office, Rubio said that there was “no way Russia takes all of Ukraine” – but also that Ukraine would not be able to retake all its sovereign territory held by Russia.
In order to reach a peace deal, Rubio continued, “there will have to be concessions made by the Russian Federation, but also by the Ukrainians and the United States.”
US sanctions on Russia may also enter the discussion, Rubio said, noting that they gave Washington “leverage” over Russia and that they would “have to be part of this conversation in terms of bringing about a … resolution”.
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lol.. nice demands, but haha.
Stay in Europe and deal with it... without exploiting America.
You and the rest of the Eurotrash scabs on FR.
Voting for someone for president is a lot different than voting to succeed and join another country.
Now it’s loan guarantees. That does not equal a coup. What about Putin’s threat to economically boycott Ukraine and cutting off its gas supplies if it went forward with the EU deal? As for the phone call, I have listened to it. In it she is talking about working with Yanukovich, not overthrowing him. You loose again.
The last laugh will be on you, because there's no way Trump will abandon Ukraine: that's too dangerous given the invite that would send to China to attack Taiwan and too damaging to US and Trump's prestige.
People like you need a drool bucket, because you're leaking all over FR.
Rubio said that there was “no way Russia takes all of Ukraine”
Who says Putin wants all of Ukraine?
“the war in Ukraine had become a “stalemate” “
He must not be following the news from Ukraine.
OK, I'm sure Rubio will be OK with Russia only taking 95% of Ukraine.
Poland can have the rest.
It's because Ukraine pledged in its Constitution to be neutral and wasn't that Russia invaded. Stop pretending otherwise.
Read what Putin has said over the years about Ukraine and you will know the real reason he invaded. It was not because of NATO but because he has never accepted the idea of Ukrainian independence. Stop pretending otherwise.
It’s LOSE you dimwit.
You refuse to grasp that part of Ukraine was both culturally and ethnically Russian.
The traditional Hungarian part of it can go back to being part of Hungary as well.
That territory should be returned and Ukes should pay Reparations to Hungarian Citizens.
Then all Russia has to do is leave and presto, neutrality.
You must mean the coups by which Russia seized Crimea and Donbas. The Ukrainian government was not installed by a coup but elected by the Ukrainian people.
You refuse to grasp that part of Ukraine was both culturally and ethnically Russian.
We have been over this many times. The only Ukrainian oblast that has a Russian ethnic majority is Crimea. Luhansk (60%), Donetsk (60%), Kherson (80%), and Zaporizhzhia (80%) have majority Ukrainian populations, but you do not want to accept this.
Russia has literally liberated the part of Ukraine whose human rights were violated by the illegal coup we fomented in 2014.
The people of Donbass and Crimea were no obligation to live under a Ukrainian nationalists government hellbent on discriminating, persecuting and killing them.
Russia was also under no obligation to let those that came to power illegally cutoff access to a naval base in Crimea it had operated since before US Constitution was written.
That territory lost by Ukraine is part of Russia and will never, ever be part of Ukraine again.
Whether you like that fact or don't, you're going to have to start learning to live with it.
I just proved the majority there voted Yanukovych, who was driven out of office illegally.
Even if the majority there isn't ethnically Russian, the majority is culturally Russian. They overall speak the Russian language and pro-Russian.
All those parts of Ukraine identify more with their country of original origin.
So, you're actually siding with the Soviets by advocating 1991 borders.
They are from 2001 national census and are in line with those of the Soviet era. Live with it.
I just proved the majority there voted Yanukovych…
They voted for him to be THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, not for independence. The majority of Ukrainians voted for Yanukovich. That does not mean that they wanted to annexed by Russia.
who was driven out of office illegally.
He was driven out of office after bowing to Russian pressure he betrayed his electoral mandate and reneged on the EU economic deal, then turned his security forces on the protesters, and finally fled the country. The EU agreement was supported by 3/4 of the population and did not need outside agitation to start protesting. His successors were elected in national elections, not installed by a coup. In any case, these events of 2014 do not justify Russia's invasion in 2022.
They overall speak the Russian language and pro-Russian.
The Irish overall speak English. That does not make them English. And what Kherson and Zaporizhzhia which are 80% Ukrainian and are majority Ukrainian speakers? You never address these two oblasts that Russia also claims.
So that is why in 1991 they all voted for independence? Crimea: 54%
Sevastopol: 57%
Donetsk: 84%
Luhansk: 84%
Kherson: 90%
Zaporizhzhia: 91%
So, you're actually siding with the Soviets by advocating 1991 borders.
These were the borders agreed to by Ukraine and Russia in 1991.
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