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Sal has an excellent discussion of San Francisco's water system design for fighting fires, limitations in most systems, and the use of seawater.

Also, at 15:15 in the vid is the most terrifying several seconds I have seen out of these fires. Clearly, in all this, there were moments where humans would be outmatched even if everything had been done right...

1 posted on 01/12/2025 5:08:12 PM PST by Paul R.
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Didn’t the Romans destroy Carthage by spreading salt on their land?


2 posted on 01/12/2025 5:09:53 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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Wasn’t there a ‘super scooper’ that did just this this weekend?

Also, I heard California won’t allow lakes to be used for a water source for wildfires. I haven’t verified.


3 posted on 01/12/2025 5:10:01 PM PST by TigerClaws
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I’m not interested in 18 minutes of a diatribe.


4 posted on 01/12/2025 5:10:30 PM PST by Dacula
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I thought sea water scooper planes were already in use....just grounded, in this fire, by Greasy Newscum.


6 posted on 01/12/2025 5:20:35 PM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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Watched from 15. Interesting. Heavy wind blowing sparks from a McDonald’s on fire. He seems quite knowledgeable. Thanks.


7 posted on 01/12/2025 5:21:32 PM PST by mairdie
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Sal should strict to history. Like most “intellectuals” he wrongly thinks his degree makes him an expert on everything

Why across the SW and TX with similar eco systems does no one else have this much trouble with forestry, and water, management as CA has for 2 decades

No, this is a political and a structural problem. The nonsense about “even if they did everything right” is nonsensical

They can’t do “everything right” because the political structure in place has failed for 2 decades to make the required decisions to make the structural changes to set them up for success.


9 posted on 01/12/2025 5:31:43 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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Yes, salt water can be used to fight forest fires. Then, after the forest fire, you plant alfalfa or Alaskan Lupine to absorb the salt and then plant trees a couple of years from that point.

It may not be rocket science, but it is know how to regrow forests, in the event of a fire.


11 posted on 01/12/2025 5:36:30 PM PST by Jonty30 (Liberals are a fulfillment of II Tim3:5. We are instructed to have nothing to do with those people. )
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I’m not even sure why there is a debate.
Harbor Fire boats are big and throw a huge amount of water on a fire. Who gives a cluck if salt water is corrosive, to what? They are salt water Fire boats. The LA / Long Beach Fire boats should have been sent to Malibu. Those houses were hardly Hollywood elite. 70 year old smallish wood houses


14 posted on 01/12/2025 5:58:27 PM PST by DAC21
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I can personally vouch that salt water is highly corrosive to metals. Following the flood, have replaced all appliances. Next up are the garage door sensors, which have disintegrated in 3 months.


21 posted on 01/12/2025 6:15:46 PM PST by NautiNurse (With a cough and a sputter, the original lying dog-faced pony soldier is led out to pasture. )
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To: Paul R.

Thanks for posting. This video cleared up some misinformation.


22 posted on 01/12/2025 6:19:46 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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Worth listening to...I thought it would be against the use of sea water...it was not.

Maybe would have worked for that devastating fire in Hawaii a few years back.

Time to think out of the box!!

25 posted on 01/12/2025 6:26:14 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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I don’t think fireboats could get close enough to be effective.


26 posted on 01/12/2025 6:32:04 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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The more than 490-acre former Weyerhaeuser Corporate Headquarters Campus in Federal Way, Washington was the first suburban corporate office park built on the West Coast. With initial planning underway by 1964, and substantial development completed by 1971. The corporate offices were built along a fresh water pond to be used for air conditioners and, if needed, for fire hoses.


57 posted on 01/12/2025 11:56:15 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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Desalinization plants to maintain water levels are far cheaper than the fire cost. But then again proper water management would do wonders.


62 posted on 01/13/2025 4:31:20 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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People worried about fighting fires with sea water really have no understanding how much water is in a single inch of rain. A simple 1 inch rain over 1 acre of ground has roughly 27,000 gallons of water. That is around 27 firetrucks worth.

Insignificant salt contamination which nature will dilute down even further.


64 posted on 01/13/2025 9:13:46 AM PST by VetoBill
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To: Paul R.

Good video, great explanations, and more confirmation the people in charge of the city of Los Angeles and my former state or residence continue to be dangerous and deadly idiots!


65 posted on 01/13/2025 9:18:25 AM PST by xander (Textual correctness unlikely)
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