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Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.
The New York Times ^ | Jan. 5, 2025, 5:00 a.m. ET | Peter Baker

Posted on 01/06/2025 2:19:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

To hear President-elect Donald J. Trump tell it, he is about to take over a nation ravaged by crisis, a desolate hellscape of crime, chaos and economic hardship. “Our Country is a disaster, a laughing stock all over the World!” he declared on social media last week.

But by many traditional metrics, the America that Mr. Trump will inherit from President Biden when he takes the oath for a second time, two weeks from Monday, is actually in better shape than that bequeathed to any newly elected president since George W. Bush came into office in 2001.

For the first time since that transition 24 years ago, there will be no American troops at war overseas on Inauguration Day. New data reported in the past few days indicate that murders are way down, illegal immigration at the southern border has fallen even below where it was when Mr. Trump left office and roaring stock markets finished their best two years in a quarter-century.

Jobs are up, wages are rising and the economy is growing as fast as it did during Mr. Trump’s presidency. Unemployment is as low as it was just before the Covid-19 pandemic and near its historic best. Domestic energy production is higher than it has ever been.

The manufacturing sector has more jobs than under any president since Mr. Bush. Drug overdose deaths have fallen for the first time in years. Even inflation, the scourge of the Biden presidency, has returned closer to normal, although prices remain higher than they were four years ago.

“President Trump...

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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Form Peter Baker Wiki: "He left Oberlin at the school's insistence because according to him, he "was not a good student." Baker never completed the coursework for an earned degree ..."

It shows, Peter, it shows.

21 posted on 01/06/2025 2:40:45 PM PST by KevinB (Word for the day: "kakistocracy" - a society governed by its least suitable or competent citizens)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Having grown up around 3rd and 4th generation New Yorkers of all political stripes those who live by the word of this New York Times rag, those who abhor it, forbidding it in their homes, the business readers to the arts and leisure, the book review devotees, even contributors and those like me who get it for the puzzle and dispose of the rest in the garbage so no one will be poisoned by it

I can say that from the time I took notice, that would be after I got back from a combat tour when my aunt would pay zero attention to my defense department opinion, assessing her knowledge was greater, that the people who depend on this Muslim rag, as a certain humorous blue blood in the mix referred to it, are almost completely uninformed, not to be debated with as they are unequipped. An unfair disadvantage

It is a mainstream media handicap with a special category for NYT believers

One can read the times, its headlines and an article or so. But to trust its reporting is a whole different thing. It is ignorance

In my first Hand experience


22 posted on 01/06/2025 2:41:33 PM PST by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I hone some day I will see a news article that the New York Times published an issue that claimed they always printed the truth ... just before a huge meteorite wiped out their building.


23 posted on 01/06/2025 2:44:20 PM PST by antidemoncrat ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes indeed. American troops and sheep-dipped American military contractors are in the Ukraine as well as Syria, Africa, and Latin America. What lies they tell us.


24 posted on 01/06/2025 2:45:13 PM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

obfuscation and omission are still lies...

illegal immigration at the southern border ....

That’s a little like saying you lit the house on fire every month but, haven’t burned any other structures for the last three months, ergo: house fires are down....


25 posted on 01/06/2025 2:46:44 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
For the first time since that transition 24 years ago, there will be no American troops at war overseas on Inauguration Day.

But we've made American ground a battlefield, and invited in enemy combatants via open borders.

26 posted on 01/06/2025 2:49:24 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Peter you are a moron, it was so good your political opponents won everything, I guess the common unwashed masses are to stupid to understand how good we had it and we need your brilliance to enlighten us.

What an arrogant, pompous, self righteous, fart sniffing jerk.


27 posted on 01/06/2025 2:50:23 PM PST by Skwor
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Portfolio was decent under Biden which is a measuring stick to the elites. Fundementals are crap though regardless of dem or repub because both Parties love their vote buying entitlement spending schemes that drives debt up. Cult of Personality people, Trump wants to spend like crazy too. Riddle me that.
28 posted on 01/06/2025 2:50:47 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The numbers get revised and/or revealed as lies in ways that do not reflect well on Democrats all the time. And we know the NY Times lies by both commission and omission going back to Walter Duranty.

No Sale, not buying it.


29 posted on 01/06/2025 2:51:26 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wont even read it. Total BS


30 posted on 01/06/2025 2:52:45 PM PST by albie (U)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Is this going to be theirs and others mantra in 2025? It appears to be so. None so blind ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!


31 posted on 01/06/2025 2:57:18 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Fed EMRATIO metric has stalled for the last 18 months, and is still way below the Jan/Feb 2020 recent peak. The post-Covid recovery has been over and done for a long time.

EMRATIO is the metric the Fed started tracking (and using) in preference to the unemployment rate as the defects of that became evident in 2009-10. Ben Bernanke admitted that in congress, as it is dependent on calculations of the labor force, the denominator, and THAT was not objective, well defined, or economically useful.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/EMRATIO


32 posted on 01/06/2025 3:00:40 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It like they think no one lived through the last 8 years and if they lie long enough their fiction will be accepted as fact


33 posted on 01/06/2025 3:06:06 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: PGR88

A few months from now the real numbers will be provided and the Dims will say see, see we left everything in good condition and Trump botched it. Now we have a depression.


34 posted on 01/06/2025 3:08:46 PM PST by Paperpusher (Gal 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“All the news we fit to print.”


35 posted on 01/06/2025 3:12:49 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

US troops fighting in Syria, and the Truman Carrier Strike Group being attacked almost daily by Houthi missiles and drones also exceptions.


36 posted on 01/06/2025 3:12:53 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Insanity is big in Peter. So typical of leftists - you need to believe what we tell you, not what you see and experience.


37 posted on 01/06/2025 3:13:00 PM PST by falcon99 ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah, and there was absolutely nothign wrong with biden mentally- nope- nothign at all-


38 posted on 01/06/2025 3:13:58 PM PST by Bob434
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

americans agreed...


39 posted on 01/06/2025 3:14:13 PM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“ New data reported in the past few days indicate that murders are way down, illegal immigration at the southern border has fallen even below where it was”
Boy the lies just fly from that garbage rag.
Never believe anything the main stream media says.


40 posted on 01/06/2025 3:18:40 PM PST by 9422WMR
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