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‘We Dug It, We Own It’
New American Prophet ^ | January 4, 2025 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/04/2025 7:27:56 AM PST by Rev M. Bresciani

In 1978, the Carter administration made a deal with General Omar Torrijos, the uniformed socialist strongman who had seized power in Panama, to abandon America’s crown jewel.

The Panama Canal had been built with over a decade of labor and half a billion of early twentieth century dollars by American engineers and visionaries who succeeded where the British and the French had failed, in the process they created a new country, Panama, and new trade routes.

Jimmy Carter had run for office promising to oppose a surrender of the canal. As with most of his policies, he turned out to have been lying.

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TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: carter; china; danielgreenfield; greenfield; jimmuh; jimmycarter; panamacanal; sultanknish
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To: discostu
Except we LEASED it. And we let the lease expire (which admittedly we shouldn’t have, but we did).

The wording of the Hay–Bunau-Varilla Treaty stated that “the Republic of Panama grants to the United States in perpetuity, the use, occupation and control of a zone of land and land under water for the construction, maintenance, operation, sanitation and protection of said Canal.”

41 posted on 01/04/2025 8:44:21 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

“in the process they created a new country, Panama”

Translation, they took a piece of an already existing country, Colombia.


42 posted on 01/04/2025 8:44:53 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Biden did OK with China”

I wasn’t too happy about those big balloons.


43 posted on 01/04/2025 8:46:00 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: Angelino97

It can be, if you need to take it for a prudent national reason. Like they violated a treaty and began working against us with our arch enemy.

Better than just blowing the place to hell, right?


44 posted on 01/04/2025 8:49:34 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: Sarcazmo

Those balloons - like the drones from last month - were a “look a squirrel” distraction.


45 posted on 01/04/2025 8:50:42 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: Strict9

They did take it in the first place. And then like so many other colonies there was rebellion, and eventually they lost almost the entire colony and managed to get peace with the lease agreement. That’s the problem with taking, the natives frequently don’t want to be taken, and then you have rebellion, which you will always eventually lose.

As for slaves there was no “we”. The Americas were colonized by slave holding countries who supplemented the labor with slaves as they did at home. Ironically of course many of those countries had been conquered by Caesar. So when the slave uprising happened in Haiti they looked at their own history and ended slavery at home, but left it in the colonies.

It’s not the merchant class. It’s government. Government that is too powerful and short sighted. Like Caesar.


46 posted on 01/04/2025 8:55:59 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Responsibility2nd

How do you know that? Not saying you’re wrong, but how do you know?

Why was China and our Govt working together to show us squirrels?

What was the thing we were supposed to be distracted from?


47 posted on 01/04/2025 8:56:08 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: discostu

But the government always acquiesces to the merchants. The merchants will always want their cheap/free labor. At least now the blood-sucking leaches have robots.


48 posted on 01/04/2025 9:02:43 AM PST by Strict9
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To: libertylover
We don't have to use force. All we need to do is load ships with the illegals in this country, then drop them off in Panama while going through the canal.

"You want this to stop? Give the Canal back."

49 posted on 01/04/2025 9:03:37 AM PST by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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To: chaosagent

Which was considered trash and got changed and overwritten.


50 posted on 01/04/2025 9:06:10 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

Dig a new canal from California pacific through Texas to the Gulf. Build it on the US side of the border. That solves two problems with one project.


51 posted on 01/04/2025 9:16:26 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Drill Baby Drill!)
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Democrats always lie. Carter was a turd. Everything he touched went bad.


52 posted on 01/04/2025 9:21:57 AM PST by bobbo666
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To: Sarcazmo

Balloons and drones are either Chinese and/or 3 letter agencies in origin...

Or they really are UFO’s, UAP’s and aliens from another planet.

I don’t know what exactly they distracted us from, but they sure made several news cycles again and again.


53 posted on 01/04/2025 9:22:29 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

I suppose everyone knows this palindrome:

“A man, a plan, a canal, Panama”


54 posted on 01/04/2025 9:24:15 AM PST by Migraine
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Amen


55 posted on 01/04/2025 9:25:13 AM PST by CPT Clay
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To: Responsibility2nd

Indeed they did make several news cycles.

They found the launch site in China. I saw a nice Google earf of it. It has been launching these things all over the place.

But the important part is that is we would never even have known about the balloon if some hill billy hadn’t spotted it and started asking questions.

Maybe that guy was a plant or something, and it really was a squirrel. But I think it was the real deal... allowed to occur for some reason.


56 posted on 01/04/2025 9:32:13 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: discostu

When did this new ‘lease’ take effect, and when did it end?

And under what treaty?

Everything I search only talks about a lease ‘in perpetuity’ in the original treaty.


57 posted on 01/04/2025 9:34:50 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: SeeSharp
Surrendering the canal was the eventual result of our support of Egypt during the Suez crisis. Keeping Panama after forcing the British to give up Suez made us look like hypocrites.

I don't remember (m)any Americans saying that in the 20 years between the Suez Crisis and Carter's election. The bigger picture is that empires were falling apart everywhere and we were the original anti-empire power, so we would eventually have to give up our overseas possessions. Suez was part of that anti-empire trend but not the whole story or the chief reason for our giving up the canal.

If Carter hadn't come along we would have held on to the canal longer and negotiated better conditions if we did give it up. Panamanians certainly wanted the canal. There'd been protests and riots in 1964. LBJ dismissed the Panamanians' grievances, and wielded his big stick and Americans backed him up. It was ours, we built it, and we were going to keep it. Later, after Vietnam, Carter came in with a very different point of view.

58 posted on 01/04/2025 9:36:41 AM PST by x
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Here are some examples of US foreign aid to Panama:

Emergency food assistance: $35.5 million

Title II Emergency Program: $18.82 million

Integrated Protection, Cash, and Livelihood Response for
Crisis-affected Persons: $2.5 million

Emergency Humanitarian Assistance: $2.242 million

Humanitarian Assistance to Displaced Populations: $1.5 million

Humanitarian Assistance: $1 million

The US also provides foreign direct investment to Panama, with a total of $3.8 billion in 2022.

The US has the most foreign direct investment in Panama of any country.


59 posted on 01/04/2025 9:37:26 AM PST by Liz ((This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. ))
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Greenfield makes a very good case.


60 posted on 01/04/2025 9:50:18 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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