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1 posted on 12/30/2024 6:07:40 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

I consider it a “beautiful failure”.

CC


2 posted on 12/30/2024 6:11:28 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Red Badger

I still remember sitting in the theater and cringing as I watched Lynch’s monstrosity unfold. As a sci-fi fan, it was very disappointing. But I could have been wrong. Lynch might have been way ahead of his time. I probably need to rewatch it.


3 posted on 12/30/2024 6:13:48 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would fhave to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Red Badger

Remember going to it with my brother and they theater handed out a page with definitions from the book on it that was (IIRC) front and back. My brother, who was not a reader, was like WTF is this? LOL


5 posted on 12/30/2024 6:13:58 AM PST by mykroar ("It's Not the Nature of the Evidence; It's the Seriousness of the Charge." - El Rushbo)
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To: Red Badger

Not nearly as bad as its reputation. It’s actually pretty fun. Kinda stupid. But fun.


8 posted on 12/30/2024 6:16:37 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Red Badger

The remake/part2 of Dune .. sucks! The insanity in Hollyweird insists on redoing what was already done right. The only remake that was a true success was “The Maltese Falcon”, which was a redo of a 1930s film with a different name. I can’t think of any other remake that was worth watching.


10 posted on 12/30/2024 6:17:50 AM PST by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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The costumes and sets (and soundtrack) of Lynch’s dune is vastly superior to the modern version which is kind of drab. Though I’d say the two new movies are probably better overall films.


12 posted on 12/30/2024 6:20:01 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Red Badger; Celtic Conservative

One thing for sure.....if you didn’t read the book you had a hard time following the movie.

Cuz I didn’t read the book and I spent the whole movie scratching my head. Lol!


13 posted on 12/30/2024 6:33:15 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Red Badger

I had to watch this several times years ago on HBO to figure out who was what.
When shown on Commercial TV a 15 minute prologue was added to inform the watchers of who was what.
Have no desire to watch it again or even the new version. Never understood the popularity of the books.


20 posted on 12/30/2024 6:49:21 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Red Badger

Awful film. Sting in particular was the most awful.


24 posted on 12/30/2024 6:53:53 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Red Badger

I much prefer Lynch’s version.


30 posted on 12/30/2024 7:16:34 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Red Badger

I saw first then read the books.

Talk about cringe!

The one really old memory of the movie that as Paul and the sand worms attack, the Pasha’s general were sitting on some kind of merry go round thing with periscopes aiming and firing their weapons.
It was odd that these leaders and not subordinates were shooting .
Their uniforms were so garish only third word dictators would think they were “stylish”!
Barron Harhkonnon was spot on and terrifying!
Sting was silly!


31 posted on 12/30/2024 7:16:44 AM PST by RedMonqey (!Trump, the once and future president!)
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To: Red Badger

I enjoyed it. It was very understandable for people who had read the book. Probably didn’t make much sense to people who hadn’t.


33 posted on 12/30/2024 7:19:33 AM PST by FreedomForce
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I read the book Dune some 40+ years ago and have re-read it almost every year since and I love it. The way Herbert wrote the story it was always going to be a challenge to make into a reasonably coherent film. The Lynch version is a great B Movie (like Robocop, Starship Troopers, Aliens...and many others.) and I really like the latest remake. Dune is a great story a great work of universe building and if you're a reader, the book prequels make for a wonderful, immersive universe that you can waste a lot of reading time on.

"fremen
35 posted on 12/30/2024 7:36:17 AM PST by The Louiswu (Merry Christmas Everyone!!!)
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To: Red Badger

It was flawed but I liked it then, and still find it entertaining when I watched it for old time sake after seeing the new Dune movies.


36 posted on 12/30/2024 7:36:58 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! Stand for Trump or Kneel for Leftists!)
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To: Red Badger

I much preferred Lynch’s effort ...


37 posted on 12/30/2024 7:38:44 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: Red Badger

The 1984 Dune film is a masterpiece in sci-fi visuals, especially the 3 hour version. I’ve seen this film at least 15 times just to see the lovely Virginia Madsen as Princess Irulan.


40 posted on 12/30/2024 8:00:12 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Red Badger

as a Frank Herbert Dune fan, i thought the original Dune movie brilliantly captured the mood of the novels, and was amazed that Lynch managed to extract the essentials of such a complex story in a stylish and relatively coherent movie, especially since CGI hadn’t taken over the entire movie world yet ... i still consider that movie to be a science fiction classic ...

i just finished watching part 1 of the new two part remake. i enjoyed the part 1 and its CGI depiction of the Dune worlds, i really didn’t see anything new or wonderfully different in the story telling from the original movie. nonetheless, i realized that the basic story was much easier to follow for those who had not first read the novels ...


41 posted on 12/30/2024 8:56:24 AM PST by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: Red Badger

I read the books and still could barely follow along with the 1984 version. Just really weird. And I hated the internal thought monologues throughout the movie.


42 posted on 12/30/2024 8:56:27 AM PST by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: Red Badger

Fantastic movie!


44 posted on 12/30/2024 9:19:21 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Red Badger

Lynch’s movies and TV series have always been somewhat of a fever dream.

He’s an interesting and talented artist.

Sometimes stories need to be told in a less abstract way to be the most effective they can be.

The modern version of Dune is still fairly abstract, but there is enough information given to the audience for the story to at least make sense.

Whether a story is told in a concrete, real-world way or is very abstract is not as important, in my opinion, as whether the story universe it is contained in follows its own rules.

In other words, a perfect hero with no weaknesses or flaws is boring. Superman must have his kryptonite and his Lois Lane. There has to be at least the possibility of failure for his success to be meaningful.

Some of Christopher Nolan’s movies struggle in a similar way as Lynch’s. But it’s not from their being surreal. It’s due to the complexity of the story elements. Some of his films need several viewings to be understood. At least by mere mortals.

For Lynch, his movies cannot be fully understood because he does not fully understand his own art. And that’s how he likes it. He does not explain his art for this reason. It’s meaning is ultimately shaped by the audience.


47 posted on 12/30/2024 10:58:44 AM PST by unlearner (Still not tired of winning.)
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