Posted on 12/26/2024 11:52:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
The country’s prime minister said the incident, the latest in a series of disruptions to undersea infrastructure, underscored the danger of a so-called Russian shadow fleet.
The Finnish police on Thursday boarded an oil tanker that the authorities said they suspected was involved in damaging vital undersea cables. They suggested the tanker was part of a shadow fleet used by Russia to avoid Western sanctions.
The Estlink 2 submarine cable, which carries electricity between Finland and Estonia, was cut on Wednesday, Finland’s police said in a statement, the latest in a slew of disruptions to undersea infrastructure that are being investigated as acts of sabotage. The Finnish authorities said Thursday that four other cables carrying data also had been damaged.
A number of other vital undersea cables have been cut in recent months, raising fears that Russia might be waging a shadow campaign against NATO nations that have supported Ukraine in the face of Moscow’s full-scale invasion.
Last month, two fiber-optic cables were cut in the Baltic Sea in what Germany’s defense minister described as an act of sabotage. One cable connected Finland and Germany; the other ran between Lithuania and Sweden — all members of the NATO alliance.
Russian ships have been reported in the Baltic and North Seas near areas where critical infrastructure lies beneath the waters, and dozens of Russian tankers have begun sailing under different flags to evade sanctions.
The police in Finland called the latest cable cuts “aggravated vandalism.” In a statement on Thursday, the police said authorities had seized the Eagle S tanker, which is registered in the Cook Islands in the South Pacific. The ship was sailing from St. Petersburg, Russia to Port Said,...
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That area is not very deep. The deepest point between Finland and Estonia is only about 400 feet.
-PJ
it is likely he will surprise many
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At this stage in his life I agree that he may surprise
many on all three sides of the fence.
Wait until we bomb each other back to the stone age.
Kudos for a fine twist on that image.
I do not mean to defend Russia in any way.
They have done and will continue to do nasty things to their neighbors, regardless of what nasty things we do (or refrain from doing) to them. Which is why nobody will get to keep nice things. You know, like high-speed communications, electric power, or cheap fuel for heating and energy sources.
That kind of stuff is hard to build and easy to break. The side that breaks the most stuff on the other side is usually the winner of a conflict. Incentives all line up in bad directions.
I wish I could see a solution to this, but I do not see one. "Tit-for-Tat" is probably as good as it ever can get.
I’m sure I’ll probably get digitally beaten for this, but:
Would this action not fit under the category of “what goes around comes around”? That’s what it’s called in my next of the woods.
If fact, once gawd-only-knows-who took out Nordstream (eyeroll), weren’t there folks everywhere warning that this wasn’t a nice way to play war? Since when it comes to undersea cables and other utilities, the earth is one big glass house where stone throwing is a really bad idea.
Or is this another one we can chalk up to “We can do bad things cuz we’re the good guys”.
I’m tellin’ ya, this hubris is gonna get people killed, and its only a matter of time before everyone realizes whose been selling the “Pipe-full-of-fun-kits-Number 7” (pun intended).
Look it up.
Just My $0.02 (let the beatings of jimjohn begin)
- OUT.
Im afraid you will have to wait for my manifesto for a developed version of my “equations”. Suffice it to say they get my point across, sufficiently so it seems to make you cross, as it were.
Me? I am sympathetic to Mr. Trump. This is not an unusual state for a royalist btw. The Carlists, for instance, adopted a monarchial pretender (Don Carlos) as the figurehead for their anti-authoritarian, anti-centralizing, anti-modernist movement. A monarch has often aligned with the commons against the aristocracy. That was a very typical medieval power dynamic.
Trump is, in Euro-historical terms, a sort of Carlist, a sort of Vendean, or a leader of a peasant revolt, the man of the gentry at the head of a jacquerie, a Florian Geyer, a Tiberius Gracchus (whose eventual successor was Julius Caesar).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Qr_r-BbSs&pp=ygUOZmxvcmlhbiBnZXllciA%3D
Consider this a severe digital beating, sir. The imagery above is simply brilliant! Kudos.
Nordstream was always opposed by US policy, from the 1960s on. Those for it on the US side were (sometimes) the Obama administration and the Biden administration. It was Bidens sanctions waiver that allowed Nordstream 2 to go through. And most likely this was a contributing cause of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
The whole thing was a German SPD baby, going back to Willy Brandt. Merkel, a putative conservative, adopted it because, as usual, she refused to see its geopolitical implications. Merkel has a remarkably blinkered mind.
This is payback for NATO and the US blowing up their pipeline.
I do not support Russia, but I find it ironic as hell, that Europe and the US play this game and act like its a one way street.
They drug an anchor down the seabed and cut two different lines. Both times this ship happened to be there running slower than usual.
No, we are not anti-our side. We are just stating reality. You play these games and you can get it done to you.
I don’t make the rules...
Finland sits on Russia’s border and has always been a neutral nation. It was their policy for decades, all through the cold War and it worked well for them.
Suddenly they decide to join NATO. This puts NATO all along Russia’s border.
You ever see what happens when you corner an animal???
You act like we haven’t done the same to Russia. WE just recently blew up their pipeline.
Everyone knows it cause we had assets there and are about the only ones who could do it. BS stories about heroic Ukrainians doing the deed are just that-BS stories!!!
Neither I nor most of the people here you call Putinistas support Russia, but if we play these games, this is what you get.
You are correct. The day the EU got their own currency, they told us they were coming after us, and belittled us every chance they got.
We have been attacked monetarily on several fronts from our “enemies’ and our so-called friends.
The invasion on our border and Europe has been engineered to crush the last bit of nationalism from the people to install their New World Order on all of us and most just sit and take it.
Sounds more like the CIA setting the stage for false flags .
Keep up that attitude and see what it gets you. Keep smacking around a cornered animal and see what the result it-EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Amazing just how many globalists so-called conservatives there are on FR. We are literally full of Neocon warmongers pushing us into a war with Russia. Total insanity.
“”””Finland sits on Russia’s border and has always been a neutral nation. It was their policy for decades, all through the cold War and it worked well for them.
Suddenly they decide to join NATO. This puts NATO all along Russia’s border.
You ever see what happens when you corner an animal???””””
Yes, evidently they join NATO as Finland did, seeing what they are facing from Russia.
Russia’s invasion also triggered Sweden and other nations, even Switzerland is seeing the wolf’s new launch for empire as a reason to start considering seeking allies as a NATO member.
Merkel is a woman and former East German. She was a big player in engineering this whole mess. Her total support of the European invasion from Africa and elsewhere was another key part of European decline...
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