Posted on 12/22/2024 8:24:27 PM PST by Beave Meister
It’s been a bad few months for democracy. Election results offensive to the European Union were annulled in Romania; an attempted coup occurred in Georgia over elections that didn’t go the way the west wanted; the French government, widely hated, teetered over the abyss as president Emmanual Macron tried to ignore the last election; on December 16, Washington’s pet German government fell; lots of funny-business happened in the Moldovan referendum and election, amid widespread disenfranchisement of Moldovan voters living in Russia; elections were long ago cancelled in dictatorial Ukraine; and South Korea hosted an attempted coup. In short, western democracies’ storied enchantment with elections is over. As western populations grow sick and tired of their political class and vote against it, what are elites to do? Annul, cancel, overturn and ignore the elections, that’s what. The problem, for the west, is the voters.
What will happen if far-right Alternative for Deutschland sweeps the early German elections in February, or if far-left France Insoumise does the same in France? Will the U.S. through its NATO and EU tentacles annul those votes? Don’t think it won’t try. And Washington doesn’t even have to give the order, because its European puppets know exactly what’s expected of them. Granted, the Romanian front-runner, so feared by NATO, Calin Georgescu, was far right. But so what? Besides, I doubt that’s what led to the constitutional court vacating the vote. More likely it was his opposition to the Ukraine War – hence the court citing “foreign influence” (translation: Russian) via TikTok as its flimsy basis for negating the election. Incidentally, reports are coming in that the heat and internet to Georgescu’s house have been cut off, and, surprise! he can’t get anyone on the phone to help with this.
(Excerpt) Read more at alethonews.com ...
The world is going to have to come to accept that disinformation is not election interference.
People are allowed to vote for whatever reason they want.
Only changing the vote totals after they are cast or counting invalid ballots is election interference and it’s nearly impossible for a foreign country to do either.
“… As western populations grow sick and tired of their political class and vote against it, what are elites to do? Annul, cancel, overturn and ignore the elections, that’s what. The problem, for the west, is the voters.
What will happen if far-right Alternative for Deutschland sweeps the early German elections in February, or if far-left France Insoumise does the same in France? Will the U.S. through its NATO and EU tentacles annul those votes? Don’t think it won’t try…”
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For sure the ruling elite globalists will try that. They are ALREADY DOING THAT IN THE NATION OF GEORGIA because they didn’t like the (anti-EU) result of that election and Georgia’s new ELECTORAL COLLEGE system of choosing their president.
In many ways, our Globalist-Run West has taken the worst elements of Communism to protect their grip on power. Along with rigging (or canceling, or nullifying) elections, Western governments are also censoring at levels that would make Stalin blush, and lying to their public at levels that would make the Democrats blush, and demanding rigged Judicial Systems that would make Schumer also blush.
In 1990, we thought Communism died (other than in a few outposts). Now we know that it never died, it only moved to OUR COUNTRIES.
The ONLY HOPE is that Western voters realize that ALL of their ‘mainstream’ choices are virtually identical now (other than in the US, of course), and so nothing will change or improve unless the voters not only vote “Extreme Right” (to borrow the term used now by the controlling parties to label parties that want controlled immigration and groomers out of the schools), and vote “Extreme Right” into a MAJORITY (over 50%), as anything less simply leads the remaining parties to form a government together, bypassing the plurality of the voters, thus nullifying what would otherwise be victories of the “Extreme Right”.
Can the voters figure this out? So far they seem to be TOTAL IDIOTS when it comes to something this simple, so I have little confidence in them.
we can’t vote our way out of the problems we have. We will never be able to “vote the bums out.” But unfortunately the people who presently occupy the U.S. wouldn’t be able to stomach what needs to be done. Birth is painful and messy and I don’t see the man-bunned soyboys and blue-haired lesbians raising any black flags. It’s Mad Max time for us soon. Trump will slow the decay slightly.
Rush said this is what they wanted.
Concur.
Good lord Owen.
Those shots jacked you up.
More accurately, the West's obdurately Leftist elite has lost enthusiasm for democratic elections at home due to the rise of populist nationalist sentiment that endangers their rule. And experience shows yet again that elections in non-Western countries commonly replace one corrupt thugocracy with another.
The resulting civil strife then sends waves of refugees fleeing toward the West's open borders and generous welfare systems -- which in turn spurs the populist nationalism that endangers Leftist rule. Yet we should not despair of democracy or the West.
Painfully and in confusion, even the Leftist elites of the West seem to be rediscovering the real world necessity of prudence and restraint and of governments that serve the best interest of the people of a country. Such policies led to the rise of West -- and may yet save it.
Hegelian Dialectic / Delphi Technique
Somebody show me a system better than honest elections by an informed electorate.
Somebody show me a system worse than “elections” by a systematically-disinformed electorate.
Agreed. I have long said there are no more political solutions.
Another Matt Bracken prediction coming true: the digital gulag.
Do you mean you do not see Trump’s victory as a great one for the US far right? I would have thought you would be jumping for joy about now.
The problem for the US and other Western style efforts at democratic governments is the extreme development of Soviet style infiltration and propaganda. See the link below for detailed information on the plans Putin is following to take over Western Europe and control the rest of the world including the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
This article has 21 bullet pointed statements saying exactly what Russia needs to do to achieve their efforts at world domination. The item for the US and Canada describes how Russian secret services should infiltrate our country and stir up social unrest using Racism and other means to create social conflict for Russia’s political ends. It appears that Putin may have misjudged his friendly conversations with President Elect Trump. Time will indeed tell us all.
Anyone with a concern for our future should learn more about this book and it’s author, also called “Putin’s Brain” by some. It was published in 1997 and soon became an important guide to Putin’s subsequent planning. In fact Putin makes it a required text in all Russian military schools. I feel this book is as important for our own time as was Hitler’s book “Mein Kampf” for predicting the future in the 1930s. Remember forwarned is forarmed. Share this info with your FRiends.
or if far-left France Insoumise does the same in France?
Who are these people kidding? The far left always gets a pass and we would be told the people have had their say.
Only when it goes to the right is it considered a threat!
As much as the left screams fascism, they are the one doing it for years. Getting people cancelled for having a different viewpoint is as anti-free speech as it gets, but that is their bread and butter.
Now their Deep State wants to allow 16 and 17 YOs to vote...
Incredible to see that when Europeans (and Americans for that matter) vote AGAINST Mass Immigration, Grooming of Children, and Destruction of their Energy Infrastructure, it must be due to PUTIN as they would never, ever, vote that way without PUTIN brainwashing them...and so therefore, clean elections (one man, one vote) must be NULLIFIED, until people ‘Vote Correctly’.
At least that’s what the Zeepers here demand we believe.
Look at the timing of what’s happened in the UK and the US since we voted for Brexit and Trump respectively.
Changes to election laws, voting equipment, internet regulations and censorship, increased illegal immigration...
Deep States all pretty much use the same playbook.
Americans have wised up to this.
More Brits need to before it’s too late for them.
“More Brits need to before it’s too late for them.”
Agree. Europeans, understandably, are used to their multi-party system and figure if a Far-Right party (using media terms for simplicity) is running at 35%, that is high enough for them to ‘win’, but low enough to force them to work with other parties that aren’t as extreme, like Center-Right. So the voters think they’ll get get some of the good elements of the Far Right (energy policy, anti-grooming, anti-WW3, anti-immigration, etc.), but without creating another Hitler, given the brainwashing by the media there (for example some in Europe still think that Russia started the 2008 war in Georgia, just as Democrats still think that Trump ‘colluded’ with Russia).
So, you have election elections where the overall Right (Far Right and Center Right) parties receive, say, 60% of the vote overall, but then something very UGLY happens...
All parties that are not the Far-Right join together and refused to form a government with the Far-Right, so then some other coalition has to form with excludes the Far-Right and so those 35%, who voted for the Far-Right are EXCLUDED from having a say in the government (much less leading the government), even though they are the plurality, often by a significant margin.
The ONLY SOLUTION to this for voters is to vote 51% for the Far Right, and there are no signs that I’ve seen that voters in Western and Central Europe are ready to do that. The only places with that level of support for the Far Right is Hungary and maybe Slovakia. Thus, nothing changes.
(again, I’m using media terms for simplicity)
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