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A forever bond issued 400 years ago still pays interest. Here’s how much the holder just got
Fortune ^ | Decemebr 15, 2024 | Jason Ma

Posted on 12/16/2024 4:31:49 AM PST by C19fan

Most bonds mature eventually and are redeemed after periods of months, years, or even decades. And then there are so-called perpetual bonds.

These bonds have no maturity date and just keep paying interest to the holder forever. On Tuesday, the owner of a perpetual bond that was issued 400 years ago received a payment at a ceremony attended by the Financial Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History
KEYWORDS: bonds; epigraphyandlanguage; europe; godsgravesglyphs; investment; netherlands; utrecht
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The British issues consols during the 18th century to reorganize all the debt it acquired fighting wars against France. The consols were perpetual debt that just paid interest. Also called The Funds, they would get mentioned in novels including Jane Austen. Sadly the consols were called in by the British a few years ago.
1 posted on 12/16/2024 4:31:49 AM PST by C19fan
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The NYSE hadn't collected any interest since 2004, so Tuesday's payment ceremony in the Netherlands saw it receive 299.42 British pounds, which were then donated to a local dike museum, the report said.

snicker

2 posted on 12/16/2024 4:37:38 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Hoogheemraadschap De Stichtse Rijnlanden.

Huh?

3 posted on 12/16/2024 4:37:59 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

That’s something they do at gay bathhouses in Europe. It means....oh,never mind.


4 posted on 12/16/2024 4:41:12 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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Cut to the chase, it paid out 299.42 British pounds ($380USD), which were then donated to a local dike museum. As you would expect, a Dutch woman in 1624 didn’t have much investment capital.


5 posted on 12/16/2024 4:45:18 AM PST by BBQToadRibs2
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click link to find out!


6 posted on 12/16/2024 4:55:29 AM PST by imabadboy99
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Took forever to find out it paid bupkiss


7 posted on 12/16/2024 5:02:17 AM PST by albie (U)
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Excel gives the value of an infinite series of payments of €13.61 euros at 2.5% interest as having a present value of €498.32. I get the future value of 20 annual payments of €13.61 @ 2.5% as €347.66, which is what I assume they should have owed the NYSE, assuming no interest on today’s payment, or €356.35 if they add one years interest, in other words £288.47 or £295.68. Presumably the bond should have a surrender value of €498.32 or, 1,200 Carolus guilders. I think the numismatic value of the bond, obviously far outweighs any current monetary value.

The value of an infinite series at rate r is equal to PV/r. If the first payment is delayed by a payment period it is PV/(r x (r+1)).


8 posted on 12/16/2024 5:24:37 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: BBQToadRibs2

The key is to reinvest the interest in the stock market index fund. Lol.


9 posted on 12/16/2024 5:27:19 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: martin_fierro
a local dike museum ?
10 posted on 12/16/2024 5:33:43 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (Hail to Pitt!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Fahrvergnügen.”


11 posted on 12/16/2024 5:36:49 AM PST by GaltAdonis ( )
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” As you would expect, a Dutch woman in 1624 didn’t have much investment capital.”

She should have invested it in Ireland.

Their capital is Dublin.


12 posted on 12/16/2024 5:39:32 AM PST by jeffersondem
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Groan. lol.


13 posted on 12/16/2024 5:42:03 AM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.")
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

A response would be way too easy.


14 posted on 12/16/2024 5:44:35 AM PST by Eli Kopter
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To: C19fan

Read later.


15 posted on 12/16/2024 5:44:46 AM PST by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: jeffersondem

Nice!!


16 posted on 12/16/2024 5:50:29 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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Ah, old bonds. I am a born and bred Yankee, but I confess to a vested interest in the south rising again. I own several confederate bonds, legitimate spoils of war. My favorite is a $100 bond, five percent annual interest, with the coupons clipped right up through April 1865. The unclaimed interest, of course, would accumulate and compound at five percent. 20 or so years ago I calculated how much that would be worth today. I forget the number, but suffice it to say that I would be very, very well off.

I am sure that if the south rises again, it would honor the old confederate bonds. This would be a debt of honor. Anyone who disagrees is obviously a scoundrel and a scalawag, and you have no place on in a conservative forum like FR.

The best part is that since my ancestors were from the north and wore blue, I wouldn’t be liable for racial reparations either. I might, however, have to move somewhere with lax tax laws and no extradition treaty with the U.S. to avoid expropriative taxation.


17 posted on 12/16/2024 5:57:40 AM PST by sphinx
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To: martin_fierro

This is the very definition of “fixed income”.


18 posted on 12/16/2024 6:09:18 AM PST by glorgau
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To: C19fan

19 posted on 12/16/2024 6:13:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Politics do not make strange bedfellows, and the enemy of your enemy may still be your enemy.)
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The NYSE hadn't collected any interest since 2004, so Tuesday's payment ceremony in the Netherlands saw it receive 299.42 British pounds, which were then donated to a local dike museum, the report said.

Oh my, the LGBTQ agenda is being pushed everywhere!

20 posted on 12/16/2024 6:20:45 AM PST by PGR88
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