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Jury in Daniel Penny subway death trial says it is deadlocked on manslaughter charge
cnn.com ^ | December 6, 2024 | Lauren del Valle, Gloria Pazmino, Eric Levenson and Celina Tebor

Posted on 12/06/2024 8:27:49 AM PST by V_TWIN

The Manhattan jury deliberating Daniel Penny’s case in the chokehold death of Jordan Neely on a New York City subway last year is deadlocked on the manslaughter charge, according to a note the panel sent to the court Friday. The 12-person jury sent the note marking its impasse after 16 hours of deliberating since they got the case Tuesday afternoon. The judge and the parties are conferring over how to respond.

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To: V_TWIN

This is not a great outcome but it is certainly better than a “guilty” verdict on either of the charges presented to the jury.


21 posted on 12/06/2024 8:48:40 AM PST by CFW
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To: V_TWIN

No wonder they’re so dumb.


22 posted on 12/06/2024 8:49:00 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: traditional2

The best he can hope for all things considered.


23 posted on 12/06/2024 8:51:23 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would fhave to resort to prostitution.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

Manslaughter is the top charge, the jury can then deliberate on count two, a lesser charge of criminally negligent homicide which carries a maximum punishment of four years in prison.


24 posted on 12/06/2024 8:52:30 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN

At least there was 1, or more, jurors who weren’t railroaded into finding an innocent man guilty. A man who is a hero IMO.


25 posted on 12/06/2024 8:53:11 AM PST by Signalman (When your enemy is digging himself a hole, don't take away his shovel)
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To: V_TWIN

2 lawyers one female...one male...


26 posted on 12/06/2024 8:53:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

https://www.foxnews.com/us/daniel-penny-trial-meet-jurors-who-decide-marine-veterans-fate-subway-chokehold-case


27 posted on 12/06/2024 8:53:52 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: V_TWIN

“Justice Maxwell Wiley revealed he’d received a note from the 12 jurors revealing they’ve not been able to reach a unanimous verdict on count one: second degree manslaughter.

Jurors have been instructed that they’re unable to move onto deliberating the lesser charge of negligent homicide until and unless Penny is acquitted of manslaughter.

Penny faces 15 years if convicted of the most serious count. “

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14166233/daniel-penny-trial-verdict-jury-unanimous.html

So...hung jury ON THE MOST SERIOUS CHARGE.

Not looking good.


28 posted on 12/06/2024 8:54:45 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: GrootheWanderer
He was charged with both homicide and manslaughter. Does this mean he was found not guilty on the homicide charge?

Hard to imagine how one is not rising to meet the elements of manslaughter but does meet them for homocide... but weirder things have happened.

29 posted on 12/06/2024 8:55:52 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: rktman

Lawyers don’t get to pick juries. They can excuse a small number of potential jurors during Voir Dire, but the jury you get will reflect the population of the area.

In this case, a dysfunctional blue city with a politically motivated DA.


30 posted on 12/06/2024 8:56:32 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxPKtJF96bs

Fox News video report.


31 posted on 12/06/2024 8:57:49 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: desertsolitaire
The question is whether a retrial will help or hurt Bragg's chances of reelection next year.

The New York Post published an article three weeks ago saying that Bragg is favored to win reelection in 2025.

-PJ

32 posted on 12/06/2024 8:58:53 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: absalom01

“Lawyers don’t get to pick juries.”

They absolutely picked the jury I was on.


33 posted on 12/06/2024 9:02:49 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

The black witnesses to the incident that I saw speak out were all behind Penny and said he did the right thing.


34 posted on 12/06/2024 9:02:51 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Mr Rogers

“Jurors have been instructed that they’re unable to move onto deliberating the lesser charge of negligent homicide until and unless Penny is acquitted of manslaughter.”

I think at least a few jurors are aware that Penny will not survive prison, and will refuse to convict.


35 posted on 12/06/2024 9:04:37 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Your agenda is just words, unless you FIRST focus on gaining power.)
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To: V_TWIN; absalom01

IIRC, lawyers CAN reject SOME jurors. They cannot do so forever. So they can influence what jurors get on, but certainly cannot pick a responsible, conservative-leaning jury in a place like DC or NYC.


36 posted on 12/06/2024 9:05:14 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: V_TWIN

Meaning - just don’t get involved.


37 posted on 12/06/2024 9:05:49 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: PapaBear3625

According to the Fox report, the judge is indicating that if they are deadlocked on the most serious charge, he will have to declare a mistrial on both counts.


38 posted on 12/06/2024 9:06:08 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

I think that’s a good thing.


39 posted on 12/06/2024 9:11:52 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Fzob

He deserves the key to the city and a hero’s parade.

Charges need to be dropped.


40 posted on 12/06/2024 9:12:09 AM PST by bgill
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