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Outlook is poor for those still on Windows Mail, Calendar, People apps by end of year (Legacy apps being killed off this month)
The Register ^ | Dec 3, 2024 | Richard Speed

Posted on 12/04/2024 7:12:11 AM PST by dayglored

We're sure you'll learn to love the new Outlook for Windows app [not]

Microsoft is preparing to kill off the old Windows Mail, Calendar, and People apps by the end of this month and shift users to the Outlook for Windows app.

In November, Microsoft confirmed there would be no reprieve for the apps. It will be possible to export local emails, calendar events, and contacts that users have stored in Mail, Calendar, and People into the new Outlook up until December 31, 2024. After that, however, the ability to send or receive mail will be revoked.

"The new Outlook for Windows is for everyone. Now everyone with Windows gets the best of Outlook built into Windows for free," Microsoft said. AI is also on hand "to help you write impactful, clearer, mistake-free messages."

While it will continue to support "Classic" Outlook, Microsoft wants users to migrate to the new app. One user complained: "I don't need a bloated mail client. Mail and Calendar apps just work. If I need a more fully featured email client, I will just use the Office 365. [B]ut the 'new' Outlook is garbage."

Mail, or Windows Mail, was a follow-up to Outlook Express, so returning to the Outlook branding just might please some even if the implementation is not to everyone's taste. The People app arrived with Windows 8, and it has a confusing co-existence with Contacts, with both sharing some functionality.

The loss of People from Windows might trigger a few memories. Microsoft ditched the original Cardfile application, which was frequently used as a contact manager before the turn of the century. Schedule+ and Outlook Express eventually took over its contact management duties.

The new Outlook is web-based rather than a native Windows application. There is a marked difference in appearance and, according to some users, slower performance.

Still, switching between the old and new experiences had always been possible. Existing users of the three apps have mere weeks to go before either accepting the new Outlook or picking an alternative, such as Thunderbird or Vivaldi's email client. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: mail; microsoft; outlook; windows; windowspinglist
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Note that the new Outlook app is cloud-based, not local.
1 posted on 12/04/2024 7:12:11 AM PST by dayglored
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To: dayglored; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ..
Windows Outlook - Mail, Calendar, People - GONE! ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 12/04/2024 7:13:25 AM PST by dayglored (This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24)
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To: dayglored

Hate the cloud-based e-mail apps. I lost a LOT of saved emails when a service I used went down, and I didn’t have it on my local computer. Yes, this can happen even to a behemoth like MicroSoft.


3 posted on 12/04/2024 7:14:52 AM PST by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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To: dayglored
Note that the new Outlook app is cloud-based, not local.

Seems like most everything MS is becoming cloud-based. They were constantly trying to get me to login to my Windows 10 PC with a cloud-based account. Nope, not happening. Then there's Microsoft 365, where the Office products now reside.

4 posted on 12/04/2024 7:17:06 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: dayglored

If I can still get to my Hotmail account by laptop, I’m ok.

I’ve got over 50,000 unopened emails going back forever. As long as they don’t make me clean those up I’ll be happy.


5 posted on 12/04/2024 7:17:44 AM PST by Roadrunner383
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To: dayglored

6 posted on 12/04/2024 7:21:43 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: fwdude
Same here. I despise cloud based apps and I never used any of of the native Windows Mail or People apps. I always uninstall them when I program up W10.

Using cloud based technology makes a person dependent on the cloud and the trust that it'll never fail. Most learned users know that to be not true at all, and very dangerous. I prefer to keep all my email local and on my machine, period. It's safer that way.

I use Thunderbird on my local machine with Outlook 2019 as a backup. I'm happy.

7 posted on 12/04/2024 7:21:46 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: dayglored

My first computer was a Macintosh 128 in February 1984. I had five other Apples after that. I finally got tired of paying top dollar for Macintosh software and switched to Windows. Now that Windows has totally gone to crap, I’m going back to Apple. Screw Microsoft.


8 posted on 12/04/2024 7:23:12 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Allowing foreign criminals to invade, murder and pillage in America is a Democrat "core value.")
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To: dayglored

I started using my outlook mail only for retailers and junk. Proton is where most of my “valuable” email is now.


9 posted on 12/04/2024 7:23:12 AM PST by goodnesswins (Don’t be REALITY PHOBIC!)
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To: martin_fierro
[Thunderbird]

That's what I use on all my personal machines.

My employer requires Outlook, so I use that for work email, but everything else is T'bird.

10 posted on 12/04/2024 7:23:29 AM PST by dayglored (This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24)
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To: dayglored

IT IS ALWAYS THUS.......................

11 posted on 12/04/2024 7:24:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: CatOwner
If push comes to shove, and Microsoft discontinues locally installed programming like Office 2019, 2021, 2022, etc, then I'm ok cuz I use Thunderbird as my prior email client. I also got Libreoffice (just in case) so I'm good.

It's a good time to migrate to Linux these days.

12 posted on 12/04/2024 7:24:47 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: dayglored; All

I have tried to install it several times on two different computers and it’s garbage. Will not migrate either my contracts or my calendars and, at least once, it has refused to send an email, placing it in a to be sent file but not sending it. I wish Microsoft had just left old outlook alone, because it works and worked just fine.


13 posted on 12/04/2024 7:25:34 AM PST by libstripper
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To: dayglored

What about Visicalc?


14 posted on 12/04/2024 7:26:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dayglored

TRU DAT!

I like how it works well across my Linux and Mac boxes.


15 posted on 12/04/2024 7:29:41 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: dayglored
I find this statement from Microsoft a little scary:
AI is also on hand "to help you write impactful, clearer, mistake-free messages."
I'm sure the AI will help eradicate "mistakes" like conservative ideas, politically incorrect phrases, etc.
16 posted on 12/04/2024 7:29:46 AM PST by dayglored (This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24)
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To: dayglored

How much more abuse from a product they paid for are people going to take? It has now surpassed all logic and rationality.

https://escapethetechnocracy.com/


17 posted on 12/04/2024 7:31:25 AM PST by Openurmind
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> How much more abuse from a product they paid for are people going to take? It has now surpassed all logic and rationality.

Oh c'mon now, people are used to that.

How much money have you "paid" to the feral government over the years, only to get a smidgen of services and a cubic ton of abuse?

18 posted on 12/04/2024 7:37:58 AM PST by dayglored (This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24)
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To: martin_fierro

Same here. Been using Thunderbird since v0.5, along with Firefox since v0.8. March 2004. 20 years now.


19 posted on 12/04/2024 7:38:34 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: ducttape45

I recently discovered Libre Office. It’s great. No need for Excel and Word now. It even runs macros, though I haven’t experimented much with this aspect.


20 posted on 12/04/2024 7:39:45 AM PST by Rio
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