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Trump wants to make a deal in Ukraine war. A bad deal is worse than none.
The Washington Post ^ | November 23, 2024 at 6:45 a.m. EST | Editorial Board

Posted on 11/25/2024 12:06:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Both Russia and Ukraine have been escalating their bloody conflict, now past the 1,000-day mark, seeking maximum advantage before Jan. 20, when President-elect Donald Trump will take office and probably bring a different U.S. policy toward the war. For Russia, escalation is about saving face — expelling Ukrainian forces from Russia’s Kursk region — and grabbing as much Ukrainian territory it can. For Ukraine, it’s a matter of surviving with its sovereignty and as much of its preinvasion territory as possible.

Escalation might be a hard concept to grasp in a savage struggle that has led to an estimated 1 million casualties. Russian President Vladimir Putin began raising the stakes this fall when he invited thousands of North Korean troops to augment his thinly stretched and decimated military. Ukraine responded with strikes inside Russian territory using British and American long-range missiles, albeit only after the Biden administration finally lifted its restriction on the use of such weaponry. The Russians have responded by firing a new medium-range, hypersonic ballistic missile — thankfully not armed with the nuclear warheads such missiles are capable of carrying — at a Ukrainian weapons factory in Dnipro. President Joe Biden has agreed to provide Ukraine with antipersonnel land mines, weapons with a record of causing civilian casualties, but also perhaps the only things that can help Ukraine hold its lines against Russian and North Korean infantry assaults.

The reason for this surge in fighting is clear: Mr. Trump seems inclined to strike a quick deal to end the conflict once he takes office. He has been vague about what an eventual deal would look like, promising only that he would swiftly solve the conflict upon...

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Still pretending it's a Ukraine war and not a USA/NATO proxy war.
1 posted on 11/25/2024 12:06:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Without reading the article, it seems to me the WaComPost is on DJT’s side on this and want the war stopped sooner rather than later by any means necessary.

Or at least that is what i’m reading into the headlines.


2 posted on 11/25/2024 12:09:20 PM PST by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Washington Post: butt boys for the deep state.

AMD Trump haters/liars. Don’t trust anything they say.


3 posted on 11/25/2024 12:09:40 PM PST by GOPJ (No law says citizens who think they're GOD, have a right to force us to worship them- same w/trans.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Washingsnot Pest still doesn't know that they got their bell rung on November 5th.

No one cares what you say anymore, you lying, Gaslighting sacks of dog poo.

4 posted on 11/25/2024 12:10:38 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just curious, in what world, does anyone REALLY think Ukraine can win this war?

Seriously, does anyone really really think Ukraine can win? If not, then stop the killing. How many more Ukrainians have to die to get the same deal they could have got 2 years ago?


5 posted on 11/25/2024 12:11:20 PM PST by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What a filthy rotten rag of a paper! What they should be saying is that biden, the lazy America-hating sob, has done nothing to bring this war to an end. He has given Ukraine hundreds of billions of dollars but hasn’t even tried to get them to stop fighting. Trump WILL make a deal! And this buttwipe paper will never thank Trump for it.


6 posted on 11/25/2024 12:12:25 PM PST by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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To: God luvs America

you read it wrong.

a bad deal is WORSE than no deal.

In other words...and it says it in actually direct words...escalation is needed.

They want us all to die because Trump won.

Not all, some are making a fortune off of the war...I’m guessing tech folks like bezos, who owns this is.


7 posted on 11/25/2024 12:13:35 PM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: GOPJ
Russian President Vladimir Putin began raising the stakes1 this fall when he invited thousands of North Korean troops to augment2 his thinly stretched and decimated military3.

3 lies in one sentence.

They're gonna a bigger sentence in order to packs more lies in.

8 posted on 11/25/2024 12:14:16 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: dp0622

thanks for the clarification- i tend to quickly gloss over things from the WaComPost


9 posted on 11/25/2024 12:14:27 PM PST by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

USA/NATO proxy war?

Video: Muslim And Jew Share Trench To Defend Ukraine As Russian Rockets Explode Nearby! Russo-Ukrainian War

As horrible as war is, there can still be times when a silver lining is experienced. A Muslim and a Jew share a trench in defense of Ukraine, during the Russo-Ukrainian. Rockets can be heard exploding near them. It is incredible to see these two men lay it all on the line in defense of Ukraine and for one another...

https://youtu.be/CV0GiO8jm6w?si=zsIEcpEvZVyTrUGW


10 posted on 11/25/2024 12:16:30 PM PST by tsowellfan (What if Maduro does not accept them? Gitmo?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Any deal for Ukraine is better than none at all.

All continuing the war will result in is more dead Ukrainians and more lost territory.

Again, the leftists at WaPo have it ass backward.

11 posted on 11/25/2024 12:17:09 PM PST by Kazan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Washington Post is expert at doing bad deals.


12 posted on 11/25/2024 12:17:58 PM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A bad deal? What would the WaPo consider a bad deal? Any deal that prevents the death of American boys, let alone a nuclear holocaust, can’t be anything but a good deal. Warmongering neo-cons can go to hell!


13 posted on 11/25/2024 12:19:58 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Putin...bolstered by his newfound friendship with Red China,North Korea and Iran...is,I fear,crazy enough to do things that just might ignite a Europe-wide war...a war into which we just might be dragged.

If handing over a bit of Ukraine to that psychopath prevents such a possibility it just might be worth it.

14 posted on 11/25/2024 12:21:25 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

compost comes out against whatever Trump does

not really news


15 posted on 11/25/2024 12:21:32 PM PST by joshua c
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hopefully, President Trump will send the entire Washington Post staff to Ukraine to reinforce Uke Nazi troops at the Front, ...

... one way.

16 posted on 11/25/2024 12:23:36 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Gee. I never heard them say a peep like this on the Iran Nuclear Deal. Maybe I missed it.


17 posted on 11/25/2024 12:24:04 PM PST by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: dp0622

“a bad deal is WORSE than no deal.”

Actually, I have been expecting this story line. The left will call ANY deal to end the war just another Afghanistan withdrawal.

They are laying the groundwork for what will be a purely domestic political hack on the President. There is no deal that will satisfy them except continuing the war.


18 posted on 11/25/2024 12:24:23 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Kazan

Agreed. An eventual negotiated settlement has been baked in from the start. The only questions are the details. They can settle soon, or they can continue the killing and destruction, for a long time maybe, then settle later.


19 posted on 11/25/2024 12:24:29 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: All

iow

war is good business. invest your son!


20 posted on 11/25/2024 12:26:10 PM PST by SteveH
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