Posted on 11/24/2024 3:55:52 PM PST by impimp
I see some news articles on impoundment, which is the main plan to reduce government spending by not spending the money that congress appropriates to support various government activities…Can Trump do it? Can they override the 1974 law restricting iimpoundment and the 1975 Supreme Court ruling supporting the law?
At its worst impoundment defies the will of the people. At its best impoundment stops government spending on activities that are no longer justified (eg. a regulation has been revoked so why keep employing the enforcement arm for that regulation?).
At its worst impoundment defies the will of the people. At its best impoundment stops government spending on activities that are no longer justified (eg. a regulation has been revoked so why keep employing the enforcement arm for that regulation?).
I read somewhere that Trump was thought to be interested in challenging the Supreme Court ruling on the subject as it might be possible that THIS Supreme Court would be willing to go against THAT Supreme Court ruling. So it was worth a good college try.
defies the will of the people.
FR is Not your blog.
Earlier, Noted an interesting point in a morning post.
Congress authorizes spending for a given program or activity but has no power to force spending.
I interpret that to mean that deficit spending is due more to irresponsibility of Congress. No Member is forced to go along with any spending program.
The only way to stop it and the rest of the Insanity is to Abolish the 3rd National Bank, the emission of credit without consequence is what has allowed all of it to happen.
thanks for that. I had to look it up. decent explanation here.
so what’s the alternative ? Pres. Trump vetos everything he doesn’t like funding-wise ?
In the past it was not used to be “fiscally responsible.” But rather, it was punitive.
I think that if Trump is going to try to use it, he needs to have good examples and even then, the opposition will bring him to court.
What should happen is that his Congress should be working with him to rescind appropriations that not only cut spending, but authorize the elimination of those kinds of support and enforcement staffs.
He has two years to get this stuff done. And it’s more likely 18 months. He needs to start off running.
Good enough for Thomas Jefferson then good enough for Trump!
Not sure what you are getting at but if you are opposed to the idea of vanity posts my view for quite a few years now is that a thoughtful vanity is better in many cases than linking to an article that I disagree with. Oftentimes I just don’t like to support MSN, yahoo, cnn, etc.
Am I correct that if impounding doesn’t work then plan B is to just submit a low spending budget and have it passed through the reconciliation process.
Seems like impoundment could help in 2025 but the lower budgeting process could only help starting in 2026?
Why do you say it defies the will of the people? Seems to me that Congress has not been pursuing the will of the people.
Let the man speak.
That restricts spending more than Congress has authorized, if I am not mistaken. I do not think it means that the president has to spend all of it. Impoundment is not even mentioned actually.
Congressional Budget Act of 1974.
Title II created the Congressional Budget Office. Title III governs the procedures by which Congress annually adopts a budget resolution, a concurrent resolution that is not signed by the President, which sets fiscal policy for the Congress.
This budget resolution sets limits on revenues and spending that may be enforced in Congress through procedural objections called points of order.
The budget resolution can also specify that a budget reconciliation bill be written, which the Congress will then consider under expedited procedures.
Never mind I now see the actual act you are speaking of, thanks to another Freeper that provided a link.
Hardly a blog, and it is in fact a valid topic to examine.
One indirect way to start impounding funds:
1. Declare all illegal immigration sanctuary states and cities as guilty of nullification of federal law.
2. Declare this nullification a national emergency requiring immediate action by the executive branch.
3. Withhold all federal funds from these sanctuary states and cities until they repeal all nullification laws and ordinances.
The current existing Impoundment legislation requires executive explanation of the Impoundment to Congress within forty five days.
That buys some time to act first and explain later.
You think the RINOs in congress are gonna let a budget WE would like pass?
I like impoundment...whenever it kicks in...if it can be done to the level we need.
We need a Balanced Budget like a decade ago!!
The only problem I see is that is there enough to cut without touching SS and medicare and the military?
Boy I’m glad I’m not Trump! I dont have the stomach for the big fights anymore!
thanks
works for me.
I’d like to see them claw back the unused covid funds being directed for other uses...
What if?
We have not had a budget for as long as I can remember.
Congress critters have pased one continuing resolution after another
Be funny if President Trump dusted off the last Budget and spent those monies....
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