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The United States has been in a recession for years.
dlacalle.com ^ | 17 November 2024 | Daniel LaCalle

Posted on 11/19/2024 5:27:43 AM PST by arthurus

The entire improvement of the labor force since 2021 came from foreign workers, and the employment-to-population and labor force participation ratios remained significantly below 2019 levels. Real wages were stagnant in the past four years using official figures. Investment was weak, and the Russell 2000 index, which includes the top small-cap companies generating most of their business in the US, reflected an insignificant 1.8% sales growth and no real earnings growth between 2021 and November 2024.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenomics; bidenrecession; recession

1 posted on 11/19/2024 5:27:43 AM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus

This matches what we have seen with our own eyes.


2 posted on 11/19/2024 5:31:23 AM PST by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: arthurus

Interesting.
My bosses didn’t know what they were doing. They didn’t care as long as there was a profit. The missed opportunities got us in trouble but our job was to follow orders.


3 posted on 11/19/2024 5:32:40 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: arthurus
A look to Shadow Stats would offer similar analysis.

The "official" governments' information is become a manipulative tool for said governments -- plural -- to hide their failures.

Browsing Shadow Stats is eye-opening.

4 posted on 11/19/2024 5:32:53 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: rlmorel

So William Shatner is wrong?


5 posted on 11/19/2024 5:33:12 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: arthurus

Exactly right. You can’t run up the cost of fossil fuels and not start a recession. That’s exactly what Bidenskyyyyyyy and his VP, Harriskyyyyyyy/Walzkyyyyyyyyy did. The Energizer Bunny isn’t real. It’s a myth. America cannot run entirely on batteries.


6 posted on 11/19/2024 5:39:23 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Go Brandon! FCS (Schumer))
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
The entire improvement of the labor force since 2021 came from foreign workers,

and with increased government hiring which has provided a large chunk of "increased employment" and has boosted the official GDP numbers ehile actually depressing the actual economy further by the effect of government crowding spending out private investment

7 posted on 11/19/2024 5:41:00 AM PST by arthurus (covfefe mu)
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To: arthurus

This Guy had heard that the S&P 500, but moreso just Dow 30, are where the growth begins and ends, unfortunately.

This article mentions the Russell 2000 being back on its heels. But there’s a wider Wiltshire 5000 that’s presumably sucking wind.

Being a smallish public company, too small to maintain a lively stable of in-house compliance attorneys, is said to be a pretty dicey proposition these days. Ruin can arrive on your doorstep on any given day, from any direction, unpredictably. So transitions tend to take place from public to private, just to get out from under the burden of being public and buy some time and flexibility to try to survive and, hopefully eventually, thrive.


8 posted on 11/19/2024 5:43:41 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: rlmorel

By next year, the Press will start saying it.


9 posted on 11/19/2024 5:45:00 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: arthurus
--- "increased government hiring which has provided a large chunk of "increased employment" and has boosted the official GDP numbers ehile actually depressing the actual economy further by the effect of government crowding spending out private investment."

Totally on target. Government produces no actual products, and grows to crowd out private society. The goal of government? More government. Rather simple, actually. Rather stupid in practice.

PS Your "About" remarks on Islam and jihad are spot on. Kudos!

10 posted on 11/19/2024 5:45:26 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Yes, if he says we aren’t, or haven’t been in a recession for years. I have limited bandwidth, and don’t often take the time to look at the utterings of a 90+ year old for any other reason than mild curiosity.

I don’t generally worship celebrities, especially 90 year old celebrities who by being 90 years old, get the benefit of the doubt, as most any 90 year old would.

I like William Shatner as an actor and occasional clown who understands his role, but his views on anything meaningful are to be taken at face value considering the source.


11 posted on 11/19/2024 5:45:29 AM PST by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: dfwgator

That made me chuckle with a dry, derisive chuckle.

That is spot on! “The Trump Economy” will be a prime target for the Left and the Media.


12 posted on 11/19/2024 5:46:55 AM PST by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: rlmorel

It matches what my 401K has seen stagnate moving in the wrong direction.


13 posted on 11/19/2024 5:54:52 AM PST by wild74
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To: Ge0ffrey

14 posted on 11/19/2024 6:29:07 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: arthurus
improvement of the labor force since 2021 came from foreign workers

Grrrr.

15 posted on 11/19/2024 6:32:21 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: arthurus

This is the greatest economy in 50 years. /s


16 posted on 11/19/2024 7:13:35 AM PST by pas
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Thanks for the Shadow Stats link. I bookmarked it for periodic reference.


17 posted on 11/19/2024 7:23:49 AM PST by arthurus (covfefe 9,)
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To: arthurus

Thank you, when government deficit spending accounts for 17% of GDP and you only show a 2% GDP growth at best you are in a recession. Now remove deficit spending from the equation, now you are in a 15% contraction in the best case (recession). I’ve been stating this for years.


18 posted on 11/19/2024 7:30:52 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: arthurus

Yep.


19 posted on 11/19/2024 7:37:44 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: arthurus
You are most welcome. I refer to it rather often, as having more than the "official" slant -- as officials change definitions and meanings of words and statistical games.

In this day and age of trans-politics and more, words and numbers have ever more importance than merely accepting them in a headline.

20 posted on 11/19/2024 8:52:05 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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