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...Vice President-elect JD Vance has called for Ukraine to cede captured land to Russia and drop its pleas to join NATO in exchange for peace.

The War Pigs are not going to like this.

1 posted on 11/17/2024 2:58:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We need to go into Ukraine to see if we can find any loot left from the tens of billions we sent into that corrupt s**t bucket.


2 posted on 11/17/2024 3:01:20 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This didn’t age well, with this afternoon’s news of deep missile strikes into Russia proper...


3 posted on 11/17/2024 3:02:40 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Two NY Times articles in a few minutes. I generally don’t believe anything they say.


4 posted on 11/17/2024 3:02:49 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In other news Britain and France just abandoned Czechoslovakia ensuring peace in our time.


6 posted on 11/17/2024 3:06:09 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Another inevitable.

60s note:
Andy Warhol’s Exploding Plastic Inevitable in 1967 included a film of his new form of live spectacle: music, light, film, art and counterculture combined in multimedia happenings.
Starring Nico and the Velvet Underground.

In the 60s all the women used to look like this (not really):
https://www.google.com/search?q=images+nico&sca_esv=651549d4eb9f225e&udm=2&biw=1052&bih=479&ei=03Y6Z5TJB5H_ptQPnMfh2A0&ved=0ahUKEwjU_vu8veSJAxWRv4kEHZxjGNsQ


7 posted on 11/17/2024 3:09:44 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This administration is all about screwing the war pigs and the American populace is behind this administration — they’ve been given a mandate to fulfill.


8 posted on 11/17/2024 3:10:09 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ukraine is not going to give up all its territory and drop its bid to enter NATO.


9 posted on 11/17/2024 3:13:28 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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The BEST Russia could hope for it to officially get Crimea, and then withdraw from all other Ukrainian territory and accept Ukraines admission into NATO


10 posted on 11/17/2024 3:15:15 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The New York Times and the Ukrainians need to realize they cannot win back the territory the Russians stole.

So they can make peace and keep what they have, or fight a forever war.

Sometimes you have to cut your losses. Give up Crimea and the Donbas. There is no chance to win them back thru arms.


11 posted on 11/17/2024 3:15:45 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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>> Mr. Trump hasn’t explained his plan — if, indeed, he has one
>> If Mr. Trump follows their advice

haughty much?


13 posted on 11/17/2024 3:21:13 PM PST by Gene Eric
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“Mr. Trump hasn’t explained his plan — if, indeed, he has one”

Why don’t you ask him Megan, you whore.


14 posted on 11/17/2024 3:23:29 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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If you can find a bone of truth in all of this news of the Rus-Uke war, you win a prize.


16 posted on 11/17/2024 3:28:01 PM PST by lurk (u)
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” — if indeed he has one — “
Not reading the Slimes, but thanks.


18 posted on 11/17/2024 3:39:00 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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“...Vice President-elect JD Vance has called for Ukraine to cede captured land to Russia and drop its pleas to join NATO in exchange for peace.”

That’s exactly what’s going to happen. Well, unless a nuclear exchange happens first.


19 posted on 11/17/2024 3:39:13 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Black guy upon receiving a MAGA hat: "MURICA!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

just saw this of the people doing the trump dance

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1858294638286721324

detroit lions even included the golf swing.


28 posted on 11/17/2024 4:09:37 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In any war of one country attacking another the goal is not stopping the killing....but to kick the invader out of the invaded country.

Very noble to be concerned about all the deaths but that can be done by kicking the invader out of the innocent country.

Some would want us just to concentrate on deaths to justify the attacker keeping the land that they have stolen.

It is important to kick Russia out and achieve both goals...


30 posted on 11/17/2024 4:15:07 PM PST by POGO163
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Yes he did. And he’s wrong too. Any secession of land to Russia just proves to Putin that invasion pays. It would be a supremely stupid move.

While the US supports Israel involved in an existential fight, it ends support for Ukraine involved in another existential fight; the US rewards Russia for invading another country.

That move not only invites more of it from Russia, but also invites China to take Taiwan, & North Korea to take South Korea.

Lithuania & Poland next up, as soon as Russia rearms - connecting Kaliningrad to Belarus via the Suwałki Gap. Then on to the rest of Europe.

In short, if any one wanted to destabilize the world, the move to force Ukraine to cede territory to the Russian invaders is the move to make.


53 posted on 11/18/2024 7:14:46 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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