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Scientists discover what caused the Roman Empire to collapse 1,500 years ago
Daily Mail UK ^ | November 16 ,2024 | Nikki Main

Posted on 11/16/2024 9:08:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv

They discovered that the Romans miscalculated their Persian-Sassanian opponents which caused their downward spiral, leaving them weak and allowing Islam to rise in a manner that essentially wiped out the once-powerful civilization.

The two groups were at war from 54 BC to 628 for control of territories, but the Persians and Sassanians took over Roman trade routes that were critical to their victory.

Without access to trade, the economy quickly collapsed and forced people in the Roman Empire to flee to other regions like Constantinople, the researchers discovered...

The team analyzed shipwrecks throughout the Mediterranean from multiple sites, such as Marseille, Naples, Carthage, eastern Spain and Alexandria, to better understand what caused the fall.

They identified a timeline for when Roman ships, which lined the shores by the hundreds at their pea, began to disappear and dwindled down to just dozens by the second half of the 7th century...

Previous research had suggested that a plague decimated the Roman Empire in 543 AD.

But the new study found the civilization was at the height of its power, economic output and population.

Researchers looked at the number of shipwrecks in the Mediterranean Sea and pottery uncovered at archaeology sites.

They discovered more than 16,000 pieces of pottery uncovered in Nessana - a city located in the southwest Negev desert in Israel, close to the Egyptian border.

The shards were determined to have been traded by the Roman Empire during the late 6th and early 7th centuries, which confirmed that the civilization was still thriving.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; fall; fauxiantrolls; freepun; godsgravesglyphs; persianempire; romanempire; romantrade; rome; sassaniandynasty; sassanians; silkroad; silkroute; traderoutes
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To: SunkenCiv

Mohamed was born in the 6th century. I think care must be taken to distinguish between Arabs and Persians who lived before his influence and those who lived after becoming Muslim.


21 posted on 11/16/2024 9:33:28 AM PST by ChessExpert (The Democratic party must be destroyed.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Yeah, their catalogs were printed on clay tablets back then. After a few years, the pile of saved catalogs could be used to build an actual barn. ;^)


22 posted on 11/16/2024 9:34:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: ChessExpert

I suspect this ‘research’ is an attempt to gaslight.


23 posted on 11/16/2024 9:35:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: fuzzylogic; Revel

/bingo


24 posted on 11/16/2024 9:36:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Round Earther
With peas that big...

Ahhhh, thanks for bringing your green decoder ring to the table. More options!

Pax Romana = world peas

๐ŸŸข ๐ŸŸข ๐ŸŸข

25 posted on 11/16/2024 9:36:21 AM PST by Ezekiel (๐Ÿ†˜๏ธ "Come fly with US". ๐Ÿ”ด Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS โ™‚๏ธ, aka every man)
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To: Ezekiel

Whirled peas!


26 posted on 11/16/2024 9:37:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It was all the fault of the first elected female Roman empress, Pelosius.


27 posted on 11/16/2024 9:39:12 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s what I had to decode.

Sometime people just go too far.

That’s how the Empire got smooshed!


28 posted on 11/16/2024 9:39:39 AM PST by Ezekiel (๐Ÿ†˜๏ธ "Come fly with US". ๐Ÿ”ด Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS โ™‚๏ธ, aka every man)
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29 posted on 11/16/2024 9:42:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Billthedrill

You forgot to mention mis-gendering. That’s a civilization killer, too.


30 posted on 11/16/2024 9:43:43 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

LOL


31 posted on 11/16/2024 9:44:18 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Ezekiel

Roman food processors were hand-cranked, an intact one was excavated from a Roman wreck found near a beach, I think it was in England, probably near Hamilton.


32 posted on 11/16/2024 9:45:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: ChessExpert

That’s still true today. Iran has some internal issues related to Persians and Arabs.


33 posted on 11/16/2024 9:45:42 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: SunkenCiv

I think Henri Prienne said much the same thing about the arrival of the “Dark” Ages in “Mohammad and Charlemagne” years ago.


34 posted on 11/16/2024 9:50:07 AM PST by ZULU (Remember: ABBEY GATE, Kate Steinle, Joscelyn Nungary, Rachel Morin and Laken Riley. )
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To: ZULU

Thanks Z.

https://search.brave.com/search?q=henri+pirenne+mohammed+and+charlemagne+pdf


35 posted on 11/16/2024 9:51:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Round Earther
They must have been very tiny ships or a very large pea.

โ€peeโ€, not โ€œpeaโ€. The yellow tide, especially during the holiday of โ€œUrineassโ€ was legendary.

36 posted on 11/16/2024 9:52:47 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: Gene Eric

My prior understanding had people voting to drain the treasury as the cause.

“The shards were determined to have been traded by the Roman Empire “

They printed too many pottery shards!!


37 posted on 11/16/2024 9:54:45 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SunkenCiv; Round Earther

They should have given peas a chance...


38 posted on 11/16/2024 10:01:24 AM PST by null and void ( Every political system is flawed, and all bureaucracies are corrupt. ~ chud)
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To: SunkenCiv

Net ZERO and DEI?


39 posted on 11/16/2024 10:01:49 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Illegal immigrants and school loan forgiveness?


40 posted on 11/16/2024 10:02:38 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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