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Zelensky’s nuclear option: Ukraine ‘months away’ from bomb
Times UK ^ | 11/13/2024 | MAXIM TUCKER

Posted on 11/13/2024 8:52:37 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Ukraine could develop a rudimentary nuclear bomb within months if Donald Trump withdraws US military assistance, according to a briefing paper prepared for the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence.

The country would quickly be able to build a basic device from plutonium with a similar technology to the “Fat Man” bomb dropped on Nagasaki in 1945, the report states. “Creating a simple atomic bomb, as the United States did within the framework of the Manhattan Project, would not be a difficult task 80 years later,” the document reads.

With no time to build and run the large facilities required to enrich uranium, wartime Ukraine would have to rely instead on using plutonium extracted from spent fuel rods taken from Ukraine’s nuclear reactors.

Ukraine still controls nine operational reactors and has significant nuclear expertise despite having given up the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal in 1996. The report says: “The weight of reactor plutonium available to Ukraine can be estimated at seven tons … A significant nuclear weapons arsenal would require much less material … the amount of material is sufficient for hundreds of warheads with a tactical yield of several kilotons.”

Such a bomb would have about one tenth the power of Fat Man, the document’s authors conclude.

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To: Teacher317

You might have had a point back in the 1990s. No longer. Russia not only has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, they have some very new, very fancy stuff.

They are ahead of us hypersonic missile development. We finally got one that works about two months ago.

Also, Russia is winning the war, despite Ukraine being backed and armed by US/NATO.

We have a bloated defence budget in part because we maintain over 750 military bases throughout the world.


61 posted on 11/13/2024 11:50:38 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Teacher317
It looks like the security assurances have been violated, so why shouldn't Ukraine get nukes back?

Because reality doesn't work like that.

62 posted on 11/13/2024 11:59:38 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: Doctor Congo

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt00598009/reviews/

Anybody can build a bomb……..

Good 5-0 episode.


63 posted on 11/13/2024 12:07:58 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: marcusmaximus
"The plutonium would need to be imploded using “a complicated conventional explosion design, which must occur with a high detonation wave velocity simultaneously around the entire surface of the plutonium sphere,” the report reads. The technology is challenging but within Ukraine’s expertise, according to the briefing."

It is unlikely (or total BS) that Ukraine has the expertise and technology to build an implosion device

Also, power reactor plutonium, even if sufficiently separated from highly radioactive spent fuel rods, will cause problems when attempting to build a plutonium bomb, compared to the weapons-grade plutonium produced in shorter reactor fuel irradiations.

64 posted on 11/13/2024 12:08:22 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Teacher317
And we are obligated by treaty to use nukes against anyone that uses nukes against Ukraine.

That is not true at all.   That is why Ukraine is not in NATO.   If they join NATO we would have an obligation for mutual defense by treaty.   We owe them nothing.

65 posted on 11/13/2024 12:21:34 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: JonPreston

Yeehaw cowboy!!!!


66 posted on 11/13/2024 12:22:53 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: marcusmaximus

I hope he does, as a deterrent. That will end this war splickety lit. And no more Budapest memorandums. that ship has sailed, and a Mexican standoff is the sole option remaining.


67 posted on 11/13/2024 1:19:07 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: marcusmaximus

All Putin needs is an excuse. If Zelnesky nukes Russia, Russia will annihilate Ukraine and half of NATO.


68 posted on 11/13/2024 4:57:11 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: marcusmaximus
Here's an excerpt from Plentiful Energy (Charles E. Till and Yoon Il Chang, 2011, pp. 251-2):
"The plutonium in typical reactor spent fuel from a commercial LWR power plant contains a large proportion of the higher isotopes of plutonium. Although all are fissionable in the high energy neutron spectrum of a weapon, they are not desirable for weapons because they produce heat deleterious to weapon stability, emit spontaneous neutrons deleterious to timing of detonation in simpler designs at least, and they decay to other elements that increase radioactivity deleterious to handling in fabrication and in access to the weapons... Plutonium that would require very significant sophistication in weapons fabrication, storage, and detonation isn‘t a likely choice for weapons by a neophyte. The radioactivity of reactor-grade plutonium makes it an unlikely choice for the hands-on work that is necessary in any case."

69 posted on 11/14/2024 8:52:03 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: marcusmaximus; All

The Donald will not allow this.


70 posted on 11/18/2024 1:15:13 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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