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Zelensky’s nuclear option: Ukraine ‘months away’ from bomb
Times UK ^ | 11/13/2024 | MAXIM TUCKER

Posted on 11/13/2024 8:52:37 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Ukraine could develop a rudimentary nuclear bomb within months if Donald Trump withdraws US military assistance, according to a briefing paper prepared for the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence.

The country would quickly be able to build a basic device from plutonium with a similar technology to the “Fat Man” bomb dropped on Nagasaki in 1945, the report states. “Creating a simple atomic bomb, as the United States did within the framework of the Manhattan Project, would not be a difficult task 80 years later,” the document reads.

With no time to build and run the large facilities required to enrich uranium, wartime Ukraine would have to rely instead on using plutonium extracted from spent fuel rods taken from Ukraine’s nuclear reactors.

Ukraine still controls nine operational reactors and has significant nuclear expertise despite having given up the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal in 1996. The report says: “The weight of reactor plutonium available to Ukraine can be estimated at seven tons … A significant nuclear weapons arsenal would require much less material … the amount of material is sufficient for hundreds of warheads with a tactical yield of several kilotons.”

Such a bomb would have about one tenth the power of Fat Man, the document’s authors conclude.

(Excerpt) Read more at thetimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/13/2024 8:52:37 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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Uhmmm....no.

He's not fighting Russia now. He's running an extortion racket on the west.

End this little man who should be selling used cars.

2 posted on 11/13/2024 8:55:29 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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To: marcusmaximus

In the history of bad ideas...this is the worst.


3 posted on 11/13/2024 8:55:51 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: marcusmaximus

If they detonate an atomic bomb, it will be Ukraine that will lose the war. In a heartbeat.


4 posted on 11/13/2024 8:56:22 AM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: marcusmaximus

A radiological bomb? Yes. A fission or fusion bomb? No.


5 posted on 11/13/2024 8:58:00 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

I think he’s suicidal and wants to bring the rest of the Ukes down with him.


6 posted on 11/13/2024 8:58:46 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: blackdog
He's not fighting Russia now. He's running an extortion racket on the west.

Yep. Z-man is grasping at straws: Maybe threatening nuclear war will shake loose some more $$ and weapons from Uncle Sugar!"

He's like a teenage boy who's girlfriend has dumped him, and is so desperate, he's turned to threats.

7 posted on 11/13/2024 9:00:12 AM PST by PGR88
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To: marcusmaximus

FO Z

It’s over...


8 posted on 11/13/2024 9:03:06 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: marcusmaximus

What a sad indictment of the Ukraine. 80 years after Americans invented the nuclear bomb with slide rules with no guarantee that the science was sound in the middle of WS2 and the Ukes can only build a dirty bomb with 1/10th the power of the Fat Man bomb? What a shortbus country.


9 posted on 11/13/2024 9:04:11 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.f)
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To: marcusmaximus
You realize that the Russians would turn Ukraine into a parking lot before they allowed the neo-Nazi psychos in Ukraine to have a nuclear weapon?

They and you are ridiculous.

Those with your mentality have us closer to WW III and nuclear war than we ever were during the Cold War.

10 posted on 11/13/2024 9:04:11 AM PST by Kazan
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I am just waiting for the cruise missile to go off under Zelensky’s ass.

As far as I am concerned this would be the best and quickest resolution.

Ukraine as a country is already destroyed because the men are gone, the only thing left is for it to be divided up between the Russia and Blackrock.


11 posted on 11/13/2024 9:08:14 AM PST by algore
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Zelensky’s nuclear option: Ukraine ‘months away’ from bomb

If so, the little GloboHomoPedoNazi Faggot will detonate it in downtown Kiev.

12 posted on 11/13/2024 9:08:32 AM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
If they detonate an atomic bomb, it will be Ukraine that most likely ceases to exist
in any meaningful way.

I don’t think the US or any other of the major military powers on the planet will just stand
by, wring their hands and plead: “Oh PLEASE don’t do THAT again…”. No - they will bomb the bejeezus out of Ukraine so that they CAN’T do it again. Ever.
Needless to say, MANY people will die.

13 posted on 11/13/2024 9:09:27 AM PST by GaltAdonis
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Such a bomb would have about one tenth the power of Fat Man, the document’s authors conclude.

And each of the several Russian missiles fired in response to this single futile effort would be much more powerful than the Fat Man with thousands of missiles still held in reserve.

Unless the Russian response is extraordinarily disproportionate, the Western response is likely some stern talk to the Russians and a statement to the Ukraine saying that was a stupid move on your part and you'd be wise to end this war now.

14 posted on 11/13/2024 9:10:19 AM PST by CommerceComet (Re-elect Donald Trump - AGAIN)
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To: marcusmaximus

LOLOL!!

What Kuks doink?


15 posted on 11/13/2024 9:13:12 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: marcusmaximus
At the time of Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine held the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, including an estimated 1,900 strategic warheads, 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and 44 strategic bombers. By 1996, Ukraine had returned all of its nuclear warheads to Russia in exchange for economic aid and security assurances.

It looks like the security assurances have been violated, so why shouldn't Ukraine get nukes back?

16 posted on 11/13/2024 9:13:20 AM PST by Teacher317
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And each of the several Russian missiles fired in response to this single futile effort would be much more powerful than the Fat Man with thousands of missiles still held in reserve.

Are we SURE about that? Seriously. Russia has the same reputation as China when it comes to honesty, and when it comes to proper maintenance of older equipment. Russia doesn't have any new nukes, and their military budget is one eleventh the size of ours. AND they've been losing men and materiel for 2 years now, while failing to take Kiev. They need to spend money on maintaining and replacing those losses, they need to spend money and resources on pretending to have a military that compares to ours, AND they're going to maintain the largest number of warheads on earth??? (5500 to our 5000). On only 9% of our budget???

Color me highly skeptical that they have more than a handful of VIABLE nuclear missiles. They seem a lot more like a paper tiger thees days, while getting their tails kicked by an unarmed Ukraine.

17 posted on 11/13/2024 9:19:28 AM PST by Teacher317
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A bomb 1/10 the power of the WWII bombs is hardly outside the range of bigger conventional weapons. It would not be a game changer against the entrenchments and armor of the enemy on the battlefront (being comparable to the mine the Germans blew up a ridge with in WWI that hardly moved the front line), and would only do enough damage against a Russian city to piss them off and horrify the rest of the planet. This is what desperation sounds like.


18 posted on 11/13/2024 9:21:12 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

The article says “develop” a bomb, not USE one. Ukraine had the 3rd largest stockpile in the world just 30 years ago. And we are obligated by treaty to use nukes against anyone that uses nukes against Ukraine.


19 posted on 11/13/2024 9:21:38 AM PST by Teacher317
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The US did not want nukes in Ukrainian hands for very good reasons.

We also violated Budapest by meddling in Ukraine’s internal affairs and via economic coercion.


20 posted on 11/13/2024 9:24:27 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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