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Immunity Debt: Why Post-Pandemic Infections Are Surging Across Europe
EuroWeekly News ^ | 23 Oct 2024 | Letara Draghia

Posted on 10/23/2024 1:22:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The Covid-19 pandemic may be behind us, but its effects are still evident across Europe. In the aftermath, countries are seeing an increase in viral infections, particularly among children and teenagers.

Are these infections a cause for alarm, or is it a natural consequence of our post-pandemic world?

The surge in viral infections across Europe

In Denmark, cases of Mycoplasma Pneumoniae, a bacterium responsible for respiratory infections, have surged. The 2023-2024 season saw a threefold increase in infections compared to pre-pandemic years, and hospitalisations rose 2.6 times, according to a report on The Lancet.

Despite this uptick, the severity of infections hasn’t worsened, indicating that while more people are getting sick, they’re not necessarily experiencing more severe symptoms.

England, Germany and France have also reported higher incidences of respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) in recent years. As Dr. Peter Openshaw, a respiratory doctor from Imperial College London, told Euronews: “There has been quite a bounce-back in a number of these infections which were not circulating significantly for a good winter or two, and they came back with quite a vengeance.”

What is immunity debt? The concept of “immunity debt” has been frequently discussed as an explanation for this surge in post-pandemic infections. During the height of the pandemic, non-Covid illnesses saw a significant drop due to widespread restrictions such as social distancing, frequent handwashing, and reduced social interaction. These preventative measures led to the temporary suppression of many common viruses.

Some viruses, like certain flu strains, disappeared during this period, while others re-emerged once restrictions were lifted. This phenomenon, known as “immunity debt”, refers to the delayed exposure to viruses, resulting in more people being susceptible to infection when normal social interactions resumed.

The term “immunity debt” has sparked debate, particularly around the notion that natural infections are better for immunity than vaccines. Some critics suggest that the concept implies pandemic restrictions were unnecessary because people eventually got sick anyway. However, Dr. Openshaw disproves this, telling Euronews that public health measures “saved many, many thousands, possibly millions of lives.” The post-pandemic rise in infections, he adds, was largely inevitable.

RSV and immunity debt

Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) offers an example of immunity debt supposedly in action. Most children typically contract RSV by age two, but during the pandemic, babies were kept away from others, delaying their exposure. Once restrictions eased, the virus spread quickly among those who had never encountered it before. However, this delay may not be entirely negative, as RSV is particularly dangerous for infants under six months old. Dr Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease doctor and senior scholar at the US Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, told Euronews, “Each human owed their debt to RSV, and it just got delayed. The debt collector was coming.”

Are all viral infections linked to immunity debt?

While immunity debt explains much of the increase in viral infections, it doesn’t account for everything. For instance, France experienced its worst outbreak of whooping cough in 25 years earlier this year.

However, this rise is more likely due to cyclical trends rather than immunity debt, as whooping cough outbreaks tend to occur every three to five years. Similarly, schools in Spain have been hit by whooping cough outbreaks, highlighting the risk to children.

Surging viral infections and the impact on healthcare systems

One of the most concerning aspects of this rise in infections is the strain it places on healthcare systems. In 2021, European paediatric societies called for stronger childhood vaccination programmes to counter the effects of immunity debt. In response, new vaccines, including RSV vaccines for pregnant women and older adults, have been rolled out across the European Union and the UK.

“Vaccines are a great way of filling the gap in immune stimulation which was left by a reduced rate of virus circulation,” Dr. Openshaw told Euronews.

However, the sharp increase in viral infections could overwhelm hospitals already struggling with staff shortages. According to Openshaw, “We’re still seeing an awful lot of hospital attendances, serious illness with these viruses because they’re circulating at a higher-than-previous level.”

As countries head into the winter season, the risk of viral infections remains high. While vaccination programmes offer hope, the strain on healthcare systems means it’s more important than ever to take preventative measures, especially for those with young children or vulnerable family members.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: covid; covid1984; covidsideeffects; europe; immunity; immunitydebt; infection; infectious; pandemic; respiratory; scamdemic; vaccine

1 posted on 10/23/2024 1:22:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It was obviously the jab.


2 posted on 10/23/2024 1:25:18 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: nickcarraway

Not the vaxx destroying everybody’s immune systems. Definitely not the vaxx. Global warming is making super viruses.


3 posted on 10/23/2024 1:25:56 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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To: No name given

Compromising immune systems while also bringing all and sundry people into your country without vetting them


4 posted on 10/23/2024 1:30:55 PM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: SMARTY

It is most likely the fact that Trump might get elected that is creating this problem. It is my understanding that that is the core issue of every problem known to mankind.


5 posted on 10/23/2024 1:36:59 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: nickcarraway

Anecdotally, the folks I know who took the frankenshot are sick all the time. The ones who didn’t, aren’t.


6 posted on 10/23/2024 2:12:00 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: nickcarraway

Have they been drinking cage-free organic almond milk?

If so, was it from a sustainable source?

.


7 posted on 10/23/2024 2:45:10 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: hal ogen
It is most likely the fact that Trump might get elected that is creating this problem. It is my understanding that that is the core issue of every problem known to mankind.

Well, there's also global warming, but that's caused by Trump too, so......

8 posted on 10/23/2024 2:54:57 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: Sirius Lee

I’ve noticed the same thing.


9 posted on 10/23/2024 2:57:46 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Sirius Lee

If not now, sooner, just a dozen jabs will do it. Hahahahahaha ;-))))))


10 posted on 10/23/2024 3:11:26 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: nickcarraway; metmom; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Infectious disease - An increase of viral infections now, is it truly an increase,.. or a natural phenomena
Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV ), or should we have expected it, or did it come as a surprise ?
What is "immunity debt " ?

" The Covid-19 pandemic may be behind us, but its effects are still evident across Europe.
In the aftermath, countries are seeing an increase in viral infections, particularly among children and teenagers."

"Are these infections a cause for alarm, or is it a natural consequence of our post-pandemic world?"

" England, Germany and France have also reported higher incidences of respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) in recent years.
As Dr. Peter Openshaw, a respiratory doctor from Imperial College London, told Euronews: “There has been quite a bounce-back
in a number of these infections which were not circulating significantly for a good winter or two, and they came back with quite a vengeance.”

"What is immunity debt?
The concept of “immunity debt” has been frequently discussed as an explanation for this surge in post-pandemic infections.
During the height of the pandemic, non-Covid illnesses saw a significant drop due to widespread restrictions such as social distancing,
frequent handwashing, and reduced social interaction.
These preventative measures led to the temporary suppression of many common viruses. "

"Some viruses, like certain flu strains, disappeared during this period, while others re-emerged once restrictions were lifted.
This phenomenon, known as “immunity debt”, refers to the delayed exposure to viruses,resulting in more people being susceptible to infection when normal social interactions resumed." (Emphasis Mine)

"The term “immunity debt” has sparked debate, particularly around the notion that natural infections are better for immunity than vaccines.
Some critics suggest that the concept implies pandemic restrictions were unnecessary because people eventually got sick anyway.
However, Dr. Openshaw disproves this, telling Euronews that public health measures “saved many, many thousands, possibly millions of lives.”
The post-pandemic rise in infections, he adds, was largely inevitable. RSV and immunity debt"

"Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) offers an example of immunity debt supposedly in action.
Most children typically contract RSV by age two, but during the pandemic, babies were kept away from others, delaying their exposure.
Once restrictions eased, the virus spread quickly among those who had never encountered it before.
However, this delay may not be entirely negative, as RSV is particularly dangerous for infants under six months old.
Dr Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease doctor and senior scholar at the US Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security,
told Euronews,
“Each human owed their debt to RSV, and it just got delayed.
The debt collector was coming.” (The article continues…)

11 posted on 10/23/2024 3:45:48 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
"The term “immunity debt” has sparked debate, particularly around the notion that natural infections are better for immunity than vaccines.

Notion?

roll eyes......

12 posted on 10/23/2024 4:59:53 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: nickcarraway

The gift that keeps on giving.


13 posted on 10/23/2024 5:34:32 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

Time to get another booster.


14 posted on 10/23/2024 5:50:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: metmom
metmom : Notion?
roll eyes......

A Direct quote from the article,
it was not my excerpt ! Lol !

15 posted on 10/23/2024 6:03:57 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Yesterday’s facts are now today’s *notions*.

Sheesh.


16 posted on 10/23/2024 6:35:48 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I have a few criticisms of this article.

First, the notion that countries are seeing an increase in viral infections. Really? Is this an actual increase, or is it merely a rebound to pre-pandemic levels, since all communicable respiratory illnesses dropped during the pandemic due to masking, social distancing, and quarantine?

Second, this concept of “immunity debt.” These words simply do not go together. A debt is something you pay back, and immunity is not something that you “pay back,” literally or figuratively. Your immunity against any pathogen that you have previously had immunity to drops over time, until such time as you become susceptible to the pathogen again. There is no debt. You do not have negative immunity that must be restored to zero before your body can start developing immunity again. And if you are keeping up with vaccinations (especially the influenza and Covid vaccines), you have been keeping your immunity against those diseases from dropping to zero, regardless of how prevalent those diseases are in the community.

The article mentions that there is debate “particularly around the notion that natural infections are better for immunity than vaccines.” Actually, among the scientific community, there is no debate. The whole notion that getting immunity by catching a disease that can kill you is somehow better than getting immunity from a vaccine was invented wholesale by professional antivaxxers who either are trying to sell snake oil, trying to kill people, or both. The notion is so ludicrous that I cannot wrap my head around how anyone can possible hear it and think it makes sense. I don’t want my house to burn down, so I set it on fire? I don’t want a flat tire, so I slash my tires? The purpose of getting immunized is so that you have the immunity if you are ever exposed to the pathogen. The premise of developing immunity prior to exposure is that you will not have to face the potentially deadly consequences of catching the disease. Catching the disease so that you won’t catch it is nonsensical.

The article used RSV as an example of this so-called “immunity debt” (again putting two words together that really don’t belong together). The children whose exposure to RSV occurred later do not have a “debt” that they had to repay. They benefitted because they had extra time for their immune systems to develop before they were exposed to this virus. Children are basically born without an immune system and it takes several years for it to mature.


17 posted on 10/26/2024 6:32:42 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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