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Do Maine and Nebraska Have it Right?
American Thinker ^ | 18 Ost, 2024 | Dennis Lund

Posted on 10/18/2024 4:21:30 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Democrats, still hurting after two losses in which their candidates won the popular vote but not the Presidency, have been making noise about eliminating the Electoral College (EC). Recently Tim Walz came out in favor of eliminating the EC, but he was quickly cautioned to not say the quiet part out loud again.

Many believe this to be sour grapes, another ploy to obtain the real desire; a one-party Democrat nation. Short of actual takeover by a foreign nation, or a nuclear holocaust, there is nothing that would be more damaging to our nation.

There exists a constitutional alternative worth considering, one that would accomplish two things: First, decrease the likelihood of a President elected while not winning the popular vote. Second, maintaining the equalization of voice of individual states in the process.

Currently Maine and Nebraska do this by allocating their EVs based on the winning candidate in each congressional district. The overall winner of the popular vote, in that state, is awarded the two senatorial EVs.

The question that begs to be asked is: if this had been done in past elections, what would be the impact? The table below illustrates this.

[Table at link]

Looking at the above results two items are noteworthy:

- Only the outcome of one election would have changed: 2012 would have been a Romney victory, pyrrhic though it may have been.

- Second, in all cases (except 2016) the Republican would have increased his electoral vote count.

The second point warrants further consideration, as we need to know the cause. One could say that there could be no significance in that, however the consistency of Republican increase in EVs would negate that argument....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: electoralcollege; maine; nebraska; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers
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1 posted on 10/18/2024 4:21:30 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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Getting all 50 (or 57, per Dear Leader) states to agree would be a mighty task!


2 posted on 10/18/2024 4:21:45 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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In addition to bolstering the Republican electoral count, the new electoral vote award method would help to more closely align Presidential and Congressional campaigns and political loyalties. In effect, there would be a little less political deadlock in DC because Presidents would be more likely to carry Congress and have political supporters there when elected.


3 posted on 10/18/2024 4:29:43 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: MtnClimber

Pennsylvania was considering doing this some years back. It would have meant that the Philadelphia and Pittsburgh regions going democrat and the rest of PA going republican.


4 posted on 10/18/2024 4:33:51 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: MtnClimber

Bad, horrible, deceptive idea.

All this does it get the camel’s nose in the tent. It is just one step closer to a popular vote methodology.

Plus we want gridlock, good grief why does the author want to make it easier to create a dictator via the executive branch by creating a rubber stamp congress, insane!


5 posted on 10/18/2024 4:37:02 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: Rockingham

Yes, and it would be much better than National Popular Vote Compact (NPVC).


6 posted on 10/18/2024 4:37:27 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: MtnClimber

This alternative deserves consideration. Of course Democrats will not like it if the Republicans get more EVs.


7 posted on 10/18/2024 4:39:11 AM PDT by vaskypilot
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To: MtnClimber

I’d like each county to get one vote for the EC.
All of those very red maps of the USA with much smaller blue islands on each coast and around the Great Lakes are an indication that, if counted by county, we would never have a Democrat president.


8 posted on 10/18/2024 4:56:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (My decisions about people are based almost entirely on skin color. I learned this from Democrats.)
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To: MtnClimber
Short of actual takeover by a foreign nation …

That has happened. The Feds have overthrown the United States. They have not, though, told us who hired them to do so.

9 posted on 10/18/2024 4:57:46 AM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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To: MtnClimber

I didn’t hear the Democrats complaining that much about the electoral college when Clinton and Obama were winning their two terms. Elections are only a problem when they lose.


10 posted on 10/18/2024 4:58:10 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: MtnClimber

No, they don’t. Don’t mess with the EC. The founders knew what they were doing. They got it right the first time.


11 posted on 10/18/2024 5:03:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: dowcaet

nor the scotus when things were going their way

wait until 2.5 weeks from now


12 posted on 10/18/2024 5:07:30 AM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: MtnClimber
The worst cheating occurs in districts where the Democrats win big anyway. With this method, the only electoral votes changed by creative counting would be the state's two at-large votes. Suspicious flooding in Atlanta or 110% turnouts in Philadelphia wouldn't steal every electoral votes in the state.

This is why the Democrats are pushing the national popular vote movement where each state promises to allocate its EVs to the national winner. With that, ballot boxes "found" in car trunks in Minneapolis on Wednesday or Thursday could flip Ohio's EVs.

13 posted on 10/18/2024 5:14:56 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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I am sure there are problems I have not thought about, but it sure seems it would lessen the impact of the cheating that happens in the blue hives.


14 posted on 10/18/2024 5:24:40 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: MtnClimber

LOL at this naive, Pollyanna-ish approach.

If a plan to award EVs universally by congressional district is ever adopted, the very next thing that will happen is that Democrats will hyper-gerrymander every state they can get their hands on, while getting compliant judges to overrule GOP-friendly plans in places like Florida and Texas (which are still GOP — for now).

For those who don’t pay attention to redistricting, the Democrats do this ALREADY, as best they can. If the White House is also at stake because of redistricting, they will shift into overdrive with their gerrymandering and court-ordered destruction of anything favoring Republicans.

Yes, this idea is way better than any national popular vote garbage. And it may sound better than what we have now. But there is no game which the Democrats can’t rig in their favor while Charlie Brown (Republicans) watches Lucy (Democrats) pull the football away again.

There’s no reason to make it easier for them to do that.


15 posted on 10/18/2024 5:33:16 AM PDT by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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To: dowcaet

They won the popular vote too. That’s what they complain about republicans not winning the popular vote. We’ve only won it one time in 20 years.


16 posted on 10/18/2024 5:53:33 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: MtnClimber
whatever it is, Maine does not have it right.
17 posted on 10/18/2024 6:01:49 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: napscoordinator

Yeah, by piling up huge wins in California, Illinois and New York. Those three states Biden had eight million more votes than Trump in just those three states alone in 2020.


18 posted on 10/18/2024 6:02:30 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: MtnClimber

Maine has RCV.

Nuff said.


19 posted on 10/18/2024 6:04:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: MtnClimber
it sure seems it would lessen the impact of the cheating that happens in the blue hives.

Thank you for posting this.

You are correct regarding the cheating which is a primary reason for going with this plan.

A second reason would be to kill the National Popular vote plan.

20 posted on 10/18/2024 6:14:20 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Pray for Biden: Psalms 109: 8)
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