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Zelensky says he told Trump Ukraine will pursue nuclear weapons if it can’t join NATO
NY Post ^ | 10/17/2024 | DIANA GLEBOVA

Posted on 10/17/2024 1:34:02 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky said Thursday he has told former President Donald Trump that Kyiv will pursue nuclear weapons for defense if it doesn’t gain entry to NATO.

“In a conversation with Donald Trump, I told him it comes to this,” Zelensky said in Ukrainian while speaking to the European Council in Brussels.

“The outcome is either Ukraine will be a nuclear power — and that will be our protection — or we should have some kind of alliance. Other than NATO, today we don’t know of any effective alliances.”

Zelensky, 46, emphasized that Ukraine is choosing to pursue membership in the 32-nation Atlantic alliance as its priority.

“I believe that he heard me,” the Ukrainian leader said of Trump, 78.

“He said it was a fair argument.”

Zelensky noted that Ukraine had given up its nuclear arsenal voluntarily with the signing of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum in exchange for security guarantees from Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States.

“Who suffered out of these countries? Everyone? No. Only Ukraine,” he said in frustration. “Who gave up nuclear weapons? Everyone? No. Only one. Who? Ukraine.”

Prior to the Budapest Memorandum, Ukraine had the world’s third-largest nuclear stockpile on its soil following the breakup of the Soviet Union. It is one of four countries — along with Belarus, Kazakhstan and South Africa — to have voluntarily embraced nuclear disarmament.

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To: ifinnegan

Wrong but irrelevant anyway. Ukraine is finished. They don’t have enough troops to cover the front.


41 posted on 10/17/2024 3:10:37 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.You will suffer from one: The pain of discipline or the pain of regret. )
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To: marcusmaximus
He might get nukes from Russia.

Just not the way he’d like.

42 posted on 10/17/2024 3:11:21 PM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: paddles

He might have had a few stashed from the 90’s no one knew about...staying tuned on this one! it might not be an idle desperate threat!
Still I’d assign only about 2-4 percent probability that there is a “there” there.

There are, no doubt, a lot of shadowy deep state figures that could try to “slip” Ukraine a few.


43 posted on 10/17/2024 3:17:39 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Not wrong.

Putin/Russia attacked.

I know you are loyal to Putin so either lie or warp your reality for him.


44 posted on 10/17/2024 3:39:15 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: marcusmaximus; All

This guy is full of shi’ite. Zelensky hasn’t the cash nor the tech to pursue nukes. Second, even if he did, Trump will never allow this.


45 posted on 10/17/2024 3:42:20 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: marcusmaximus

The guy who didn’t have a competent airforce before the Russian invasion, is now going to aquire nuclear weapons?

“Yeah, Right” /sarcasm


46 posted on 10/17/2024 3:44:55 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: marcusmaximus

What an egomaniac scumbag


47 posted on 10/17/2024 3:48:24 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Clay Bevis and Cuck Butthead are panty wadded, pearl clutching cowards. Rush deserves better.)
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To: marcusmaximus

So I must assume he doesn’t ever plan on stepping down and allowing elections.


48 posted on 10/17/2024 4:16:06 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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To: marcusmaximus

49 posted on 10/17/2024 4:50:38 PM PDT by Allegra (“As I was saying…”)
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To: marcusmaximus

threatening the use of nukes if not accepted into Nato is not the way to negotiate ‘position’ with Trump. Z’s egomania needs to be taken down a peg or three. He’s on the verge of out of control, like a 7-yo throwing himself down on the supermarket aisle floor because mommy won’t buy cocoa puffs.


50 posted on 10/17/2024 6:10:57 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: marcusmaximus

He said the very same thing days before Vlad invaded…. there are consequences for STUPID.


51 posted on 10/17/2024 6:33:35 PM PDT by delta7
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To: ifinnegan

The nukes the Ukies had were Soviet designed and built. The Ukies were in no way able to use them, service them,maintain them, program them or launch them.

The US was afraid of them being hi jacked, stolen, or sold off ( due to the Ukies known corruption) to the highest terrorist bidder.


52 posted on 10/17/2024 6:40:41 PM PDT by delta7
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To: marcusmaximus

Trump will likely turn off the $$$ spigot and let this idiot consider who is really holding the cards, then tell him the terms for peace.


53 posted on 10/17/2024 6:55:57 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: ifinnegan
Ukraine had nukes

No, the Soviets had nukes located in Ukraine but the authority to use them remained in Moscow. Ukraine never had independent control of the Soviet nukes and NO ONE at the time thought it was a good idea that they get them.

The Budapest Amendment was a piece a paper signed by someone in the Clinton administration to pacify a corrupt Ukrainian regime...that's all.

54 posted on 10/17/2024 7:44:25 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Revel

Zelinski is the one who turned Ukraine into an anti-Russian baston of Nazi’s and the Obama/Biden cabal. It is ironic that Zelinski himself is responsible for this war, following Blinken. When Zelinski had a military of 1.2m trained soldiers he actually talked about his tanks driving down the streets of Moscow. Now the little Furher has 330k military left and is losing 500km weekly. His little Kursk Nuclear Terrorist attack failed.


55 posted on 10/17/2024 7:45:57 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: ConservativeMind

The enrtire point of the article as I see is to point out that Trump is 78 years old, and that no one spork to the Harris/Biden Admin... therefore, Zelinski is threatening Trump is apparently the one who will make the decisions on Ukraine.

Zelinski will be dead soon. He is threatening the entire world. He has become a liability. Telling the West he is going nuclear was a bad choice.

Each article provides differnt information.


56 posted on 10/17/2024 7:46:22 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: mdmathis6

Russia would hold DC totally responsible for any nuclear attack from their dogs in Ukraine. The dog is biting it’s master, and the master (Biden) doesn’t remember his last diaper change.


57 posted on 10/17/2024 7:48:16 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: marcusmaximus

Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons on Russia’s promise not to violate the Ukrainian borders is how this whole mess got started.


58 posted on 10/17/2024 7:51:51 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: marcusmaximus

What are you Langley troll farmers gonna do when Trump comes in and shuts down this Brandon Harris Zelenskyy war grifting corruption neocon thingy?

Get a job at MaxDonalds?


59 posted on 10/17/2024 8:26:25 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: delta7; mac_truck

You guys are dolts.

Of course they were Soviet nukes.

Ukraine was Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, part of the USSR.

You Putin guys follow your idol and still believe Russia is the USSR.


60 posted on 10/18/2024 12:08:58 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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