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‘Totally my bad. Wow. Holy s—‘: Teen driver says fatal tanker crash, toxic chemical spill may have been her fault after watching dashcam video
lawandcrime.com ^ | October 05, 2024 | Marisa Sarnoff

Posted on 10/11/2024 1:05:31 PM PDT by Red Badger

Background: The aftermath of a tanker-truck crash that killed five people in Springfield, Ill. Inset: Footage of a car believed to have been connected to the crash (WCIA/YouTube).

A teen driver from Ohio has apparently admitted to setting off a chain of events that ended in a fatal tanker crash and a toxic chemical spill in central Illinois.

Five people were killed when a semitruck carrying anhydrous ammonia in Teutopolis, in central Illinois, on Sept. 29, 2023. The tanker jackknifed when it veered to the right in an apparent attempt to avoid a collision when another vehicle tried to pass it on U.S. 40, around 110 miles northeast of St. Louis, at around 8:40 p.m. According to the National Transportation Safety Board, the tank hit the trailer hitch of a vehicle parked just off the road, leaving a 6-inch hole in the chemical container.

About half the tanker’s 7,500-gallon load spilled, forcing the evacuation of around 500 people. The fatalities were due to exposure to the chemical, which is normally used by farmers to add nitrogen to soil. It is also used as a refrigerant in large buildings.

Within days, investigators determined that a passenger vehicle had tried to pass the tanker shortly before the crash. Now, in a newly-released federal report, the driver of that car — a 17-year-old girl — appears to have acknowledged that her attempt to pass the truck may have played a role in the tragedy.

The teen, who is not identified by name in the report, said in an interview on Oct. 4, 2023, that she was behind the wheel driving west toward Teutopolis at the time when she passed the truck because, in her words, it was going “super duper slow.” Her mother and brother were passengers, and according to her, while they were rattled by the fact that they were almost in a head-on collision as the teen was passing the truck, none of them had any idea about what had happened behind them after they returned to their lane.

That changed when she watched dashcam video from the truck.

“Did that happen?” she asked investigators, according to the interview transcript. “Oh, my gosh. Because again, I’m telling you I passed one or two trucks on there. So is that what happened? Is it literally — does it flip after I pass the guy?”

The investigators point out that the driver didn’t actually make contact with the tanker.

“Of course, but he did go off the road after I passed him, the truck?” the driver asked the investigators.

The transcript relays the teen’s discovery of her apparent role in the crash in real time.

Q. This is Route 40. There’s the no-passing zone sign. See that? A: Oh, s—. Q: Okay? A: Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yep, totally my bad. Wow. Q: Okay. A: Holy s—. Q: So we’ll watch this again. A: No, you don’t have to. It was totally my fault.

When asked if she was aware that the truck ran off the road following her passing it, she insisted that neither she nor her family members had any idea.

“None of us knew that this truck went off the road,” she said. “I’m finding this out now.”

“I mean, I thought for sure I saw his lights and it looked normal,” she also said. “Like I didn’t see anything that I was like, oh, this is abnormal, I should like see what’s going on behind me and like something’s wrong.”

The teen’s mother had heard reports of a crash on U.S. 40, but she said they didn’t realize it was connected to the truck they had previously passed and the “close call” with an oncoming vehicle.

Q: Was your night ruined after that close call? A. No. Because I thought I just passed a truck normally and everything was fine. I didn’t know he went off the road. I mean, logically looking back on it, I would’ve thought he could brake. But obviously trucks can’t stop quickly, so I — it looks like it was my fault from the video. Q. Do you think it was your fault? A. Now I do, but back then I had no idea. Of course I think it’s my fault now. How could I not? And like five people died. Who else died? Okay, so the truck driver died — Q. The truck driver didn’t, didn’t die. A. Oh, really? Well, some people in a house did, right? They’re totally innocent. Q. When did you find out about the people that died in the house? A. The news story. It was like a dad and two kids, right? Q. Yeah. A. I’m so sorry. Q. You’re fine. A: No, it isn’t fine. What the hell? Some people died, right? You said five people? Q. We don’t have to go into that right now. [Trooper]: We don’t have to — [Teen driver]: I need to know. Oh, my God.

According to the transcript, the driver struggles to comprehend what happened.

“I don’t know how we would not have noticed that,” she says. “Literally, that still makes no sense to me. You’d think it would like make a big noise or like we’d see the headlights going off the road or like some explosion like — you would think we would’ve known, but we didn’t know.”

Throughout the interview, the girl acknowledges that she is a relatively new driver and that in the past she “had times when I just don’t use good judgment in judging like distances and whether I have enough time for something.”

She also expresses regret when asked if she would have done anything differently.

“I’m not sure how to answer that,” she says. “I mean, it, it sounds like I made a shitty decision on the road that for whatever reason seemed completely fine to me in the moment, and it turned out not to be fine at all and I killed five people and now I’m — yeah, of course I’d do that differently. Are you kidding me?”

The five people who died as a result of the toxic spill were Teutopolis resident Kenneth Bryan, 34, and his children, Walker Bryan, 10 and Rosie Bryan, 7; Danny J. Smith, 67 of New Haven, Missouri; and Vasile Cricovan, 31, of Twinsburg, Ohio.

So far, no charges have been filed in the crash.


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1 posted on 10/11/2024 1:05:31 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Who was the idiot attorney advising this dumb kid?


2 posted on 10/11/2024 1:10:07 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: larrytown

May not have had one, apparently............


3 posted on 10/11/2024 1:12:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Things not to say so the general public, the layers and the insurance companies don’t hear ya.


4 posted on 10/11/2024 1:12:50 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Red Badger

So this happened over a year ago and no charges have been filed.

Maybe the DA has decided it was just an unfortunate accident.


5 posted on 10/11/2024 1:13:54 PM PDT by DarrellZero (.)
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To: DarrellZero

Notice that, according to the article, the people did not die from injuries in the accident, but from exposure to the anhydrous ammonia that leaked from the punctured tank...........


6 posted on 10/11/2024 1:16:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

I killed five people


Welcome to the mass murderer club, airhead.


7 posted on 10/11/2024 1:20:15 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DarrellZero

Also,

“that the driver didn’t actually make contact with the tanker.”

That makes it difficult to prove any cause and effect..........


8 posted on 10/11/2024 1:20:29 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds like the five probably died quickly. I remember a dash-cam video from 2000 that showed an LEO driver getting out of his car and walking into a cloud of anhydrous ammonia to check on victims at a vehicle accident scene. He obviously didn’t identify what was leaking into the air from the small trailer. His radio mic was on and he just walked into the cloud, coughed, and keeled over. He didn’t breathe much longer.


9 posted on 10/11/2024 1:21:59 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Red Badger

That is really a dangerous chemical. A small hose leak can kill a farmer instantly. A small amount can create a large kill zone. It basically takes your breath away before you know anything.

You shouldn’t expect the person you are passing to have to put on their brakes. Mom should have taken the car away at first sign of dangerous passing.


10 posted on 10/11/2024 1:22:09 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: FoxInSocks

Immediate death...................


11 posted on 10/11/2024 1:23:18 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

The video would convict her.


12 posted on 10/11/2024 1:24:53 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Red Badger
There are millions like her on the road.
13 posted on 10/11/2024 1:25:28 PM PDT by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane' )
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To: alternatives?

She says they almost got in a head on.

Passing a huge truck blind is something she should’ve thought of regarding that.j

She says she did not see the ‘do not pass’ signs either.

This is why I am so afraid to drive on the freeway. This is really a pretty common type driver out there.


14 posted on 10/11/2024 1:26:16 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: alternatives?

There is a law against using ammonia as a refrigerant in places where a leak could endanger people. It is a better refrigerant than the freon based.

But, our corrupt government has handed out “exceptions”. I know that the Dallas American Airlines Center ice system (for the ice hockey) runs on Ammonia.

and the place seats 10’s of thousands.


15 posted on 10/11/2024 1:27:10 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Red Badger

I think too many careless, stupid incidents on the road are misrepresented as “accidents.”

These insane lane-jumpers passing traffic madly at 85 mph should be held criminally accountable WHEN they cause “accidents.”


17 posted on 10/11/2024 1:32:47 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: BereanBrain

It is used a lot on corn by farmers.


18 posted on 10/11/2024 1:39:37 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Red Badger
Probably trying to pass and Tik-Tok at the same time. I'm not sure who is dumber 17 year old girls or 17 year old boys.

19 posted on 10/11/2024 1:40:45 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and His mercy endureth forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: Red Badger

I think I counted seven likes.


20 posted on 10/11/2024 1:41:54 PM PDT by Romulus ( )
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