When we can fully charge an EV in 10 minutes and drive 400+ miles at 70 mph, in comfort and safety, then we will buy one. Sincerely,
The Motoring Public..........
LOL, what a nightmare these things can be.
My daughter and her husband recently rented an EV to meet us about two hours away - they had to wait for the thing to charge up, which took a while and made them late for the event we were attending - they came to our hotel, which had chargers, but ONLY for Rivians and Teslas, SIL tried to hook up and the charger didn’t fit their EV. They didn’t have enough “juice” to drive the EV back to the rental place so my SIL had to scramble to find the correct charger, which was at a shopping mall not too far away - and pray they were in working order. They had to leave the event early because of the charging time. Last words from my SIL: “Never Again.”
Almost half of the existing homes in thus country still have a 60A service.
Give them free EVs and they STILL couldn’t charge them safely unless they turn off eveything else in the house.
For hours.
I’ll buy an EV when they become hot investments in the collector car market, which will probably be never.
...and not have to worry about the car catching fire or exploding beneath us.
The clock is ticking in California and a few other states.
In 2035, it will be illegal to buy new internal combustion engine vehicles in California and some other states.
Supposedly, you can still buy a used car after that date. But nobody seems to know for sure what’s going to happen.
Gavin Newsom and his ilk Are trying to force feed electric cars.
Anything that requires a subsidy is not sustainable.
Under Klaus Schwab his World Enslavement Forum and the UN’s New World Order everyone will be wearing uniforms and walking anyway
The real problem is Bidenomics.
The inventory of unsold gasoline vehicles is also high, has been throughout this model year. In June, unsold ICE inventories were 76 days’ worth, currently the average (sez here) is 88 days’ worth (3.2 million vehicles). Some dealers are going to fold up.
Out here in The Boonies the big local dealer (it’s visible from the Moon, I’m pretty sure) is lousy with trucks, Jeeps, and some muscle cars. About six years ago they added a separate building for used vehicles (including certified) and that would up shuttered for a couple of years due to the COVID hoax. They reopened it a couple of years ago, I’d imagine the stock turn in their used inventory is keeping them afloat right now.
The 2025 models are arriving.
In June Tesla had just north of 46000 unsold vehicles out of a total production of about 2 million a year (900K in the US plants). They were parking them in rented lots, some of which were at huge empty shopping malls, because that retailing model is on the way out.
The common thread is that potential buyers don’t have the cash and/or credit line (and/or job/income) to drop $45000 on a car or $65000 and up on a truck.
My little sedan was (I believe) the cheapest new model then available, and ran a bit more than $24K — and I had to wait for delivery because of the trucking crunch.
I hate what the elites are trying to do to my progeny.
And throw in a non combustible battery while they’re at it
I thankfully am old enough that I should be able to die without having to buy one of these things. Maybe I’ll be forced to buy a hybrid at some point but there should be used gas cars around until I’m too senile to drive.
A local Circle K recently opened 3-4 EV charging positions. I guess it was supposed to be a big deal - our (Democrat) Governor was there for some kind of grand opening.
I’ve never seen a single car sitting there charging. I guess the owners don’t want to hang out at a Circle K for 3 hours while the car charges up.
“losing as much as half of their value in a year”
Maybe the batteries should be a leased product.
The risk of defective batteries would be shifted away from the EV owner and the EV would then hold value well.
Another example of how planned economies fail.
Governments can't anticipate what consumers will want or buy.
The government tells producers what the public needs, forces producers to produce a product.
Then when the product is presented to the public, the public fails to buy the product and the producer is on hook for the losses.
Sure the producer can write off the loss, but that only recoups them maybe 30% of the loss.
I am going to drive my 2020 Toyota till I die if I can. No way will I buy an electric vehical.
As an economist, it's kinda fun to watch the market at work telling producers "we don't want these things". Still, the gov't is trying to create incentives to counter the market. Consider the government's $7.5 billion bill, passed in 2021, to build 182,000 charging stations.
A govt-sponsored charging is coming to your area...you just may have to wait a while. So far, with typical gov't efficiency, they have built 8 charging stations in the last 3 years.
I am roadtripping through Washington right now. I passed 4 tesla in Steven’s Pass all with dead batteries waiting for a tow truck.
Are Motorola or Tyco slot cars better? Every few years I run into my childhood friend Joey in the neighborhood and we still debate the question.
(Joey has been a local cop for decades,
about ready to retire if not already done so.)
So what say ye, folks?
Motorola or Tyco? :-) LOL.
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Having spent 37 years in the electric power business I think about electricity maybe more than most people.
The issue with the batteries in these cars is, with today's technology, are insurmountable (in my opinion).
The issue with range and charging times is what I am thinking about today.
To make range comparable with gasoline cars requires a break through in battery tech. There are some things that are promising being worked on.
But charging times another matter.
To get charging times down to something comparable to fueling up a gasoline car would require very high currents and a charging cable about as thick as your arm. Most people would have a hard time hooking up their car to the charger.
I am thinking you would need a 480 Volt power line or better to supply the necessary amperage to charge your car.
Then the car would probably need an off board liquid cooling system hooked up to the car during charging to carry away the heat generated during the charge.
I really don't see the money out there to make such a transportation system possible.
Then there is simply not the electrical distribution system out there that could handle the ridiculously variable electric demand that would make it possible to charge car batteries in short times.
An EV with 50 mile range that could be charged overnite at home would be very useful for my daily shopping, etc…if it cost $10K or less.
It’s not within the government’s limited range of authority to tell Americans what they can and cannot drive based on cars’ various energy sources. Yet policymakers issue mandates with no regard for the short leashes that should hold them back.
We definitely should see a lot more of these resolutions in congress.
But what kind of power does this resolution have?
Yes, the federal government really does not have the delegated power to tell car companies what to produce and yet they do it anyway.