Posted on 09/13/2024 6:53:49 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
The new docuseries from HBO, Wise Guy, is out now. In it, David Chase, creator of The Sopranos, speaks about the creation of the show that changed television history. Wise Guy takes an interesting look at how Chase came up with the idea, as well as a look into the writer's room where so many classic episodes were created. The Sopranos was one of the best series of all-time, with brilliant writing, thrilling twists, and some memorable characters, but none of it would have mattered without James Gandolfini, the actor tasked with playing The Sopranos' lead, a tortured man filled with anger. Playing such a character won James Gandolfini a few Emmys, but it also took a heavy toll on him physically and emotionally.
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Brilliant, Genius.
Finis.
She would bounce a roast beef off the back of your head.
She would bounce a roast beef off the back of your head.
If I was lucky.
Not the fun way...
Gandolfini was kind of one trick pony as an actor, he was great in his role as Tony but that was kind of it. In anything else I saw him in he was so so or okay. I saw him in the Redford film The Last Castle and I did not think the he should have been in that role.
I kind of compare Gandolfini to Ray Sharkey who played Sonny Steelegrave in the TV show Wiseguy, Ray was hitting on all cylinders in that role and he could play other stuff also. Left the world too soon also. Another was Kevin Spacey as Billionaire Criminal Mel Profitt on Wiseguy, great breakout role for him and he also could go on and play anything as well. The first season of Wiseguy was probably the best you would see in that genre and every story arc was memorable.
It won’t be cinematic.
It made me think, wait a minute! Rewound it a bit and all was working.
Ah. Didn’t see that.
I still think the first few seasons of Mad Men were the best. Of course as the 60s progressed the show started getting more Woke.
“The whole point of the show was that they were so wrapped up in their world they didn’t see the all around them the Italian Mafia was losing relevance.”
Another good scene was when Paulie tried the protection racket on the Starbucks type store and the manager tells him he has to go to corporate.
never liked Liotta! always considered him a B actor...
I see Gandolfini the same way, i.e., a B actor generally. But for The Sopranos he was perfect.
I too loved that episode as difficult as it was to watch. It was such a great study of conflicting “morals” and the contrasts and similarities between Meadow and Tracee and between Tony and Meadow.
Also, the dinner scene with the Soprano family and Ralphie and Rosalie Aprile where they seem to be somewhat a typical suburban family.
Tony rebuffed Tracee when seeking his help and advice, and Meadow, while at first sympathetic, ultimately rebuffs and leaves her roommate Caitlin alone to deal with her escalating mental health issues.
Meadow gets dumped by her boyfriend Noah right after losing her virginity to him, perhaps at his father’s instance when he learns about Meadow’s “family” and Noah’s claims that she’s too “negative”, and the good hearted but not too bright and pregnant Tracee gets not only dumped by Ralphie but beaten to death by him.
Later in a therapy session Tony seems to feel remorse about Tracee’s death although he says he feels bad about the death of one of his workers in waste management who died in an accident but it is apparent he’s talking about Tracee. Meadow on the other hand doesn’t seem to care about what happens to Cailin at all.
In a later episode when Tony kills Ralphie, ostensibly over the death of a racehorse, but while he’s choking Ralphie to death, he keeps say “You killed her. You killed her” but at that point I don’t think it was really about the horse.
Ralphie had at first denied that he had anything to do with the fire that killed the horse but then says, “So what. It was just a horse, just an animal” echoing what Ralphie thought of Tracee and their unborn child.
I’ve read some people say that the ending of the Soprano’s, while very ambiguous, is that Meadow, having trouble parking and running late, may have escaped the implied fate of the rest of her family and that she eventually took over the “family” business, even as while when younger and seemed to be sensitive and even “woke” in some respects, but as she got older and after witnessing her family’s deaths, she became very pragmatic and cold hearted and extremely ruthless, maybe even more so than her father ever was. And she brutally took her revenge out on all those who killed her family while under the cover of a legitimate, highly educated and respected business woman. I thought that was an interesting take.
Paulie:
"You're not gonna believe this. This guy killed 16 Czechoslovakians. He was an interior decorator".
Christopher: "His house looked like shit".
Agree...would drink her bath water:
And I wouldn’t even need a chaser.
Christopher: Vito a fag, big construction tycoon. When he was always talking about “greasing the union”, who knew that’s what he meant?
Tony Soprano : All right, let’s take this in the back.
James ‘Murmur’ Zancone : Yeah, that’s what Vito did!
Tony Soprano : You can go.
Please add. Just bought the series to re-watch
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