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Legal Term Help From Fellow Frreper
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Posted on 09/06/2024 11:44:57 AM PDT by Gort_Klaatu

A while back a fellow Freeper was talking about the refusal by judges to look at possible evidence of cheating in the 2020 election. They did not use the term “No Standing” or the term “Hearsay”. It was a legal phrase I had never heard before but it had to deal with a judge refusing to look into the evidence even when it was possibly valid. Can anyone help me with this? Thank you for your help.


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1 posted on 09/06/2024 11:44:57 AM PDT by Gort_Klaatu
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To: Gort_Klaatu

Fellow Freeper.


2 posted on 09/06/2024 11:45:54 AM PDT by Gort_Klaatu
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To: Gort_Klaatu

Laches?


3 posted on 09/06/2024 11:47:01 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: Gort_Klaatu

Was it “Laches”?


4 posted on 09/06/2024 11:48:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/laches


5 posted on 09/06/2024 11:51:49 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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Were the claims supposed to happen before the “Steal” happened?


6 posted on 09/06/2024 11:52:58 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: Gort_Klaatu

Probably laches, due to the possible consequences involved.


7 posted on 09/06/2024 11:53:06 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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Hmmm…. Possibly


8 posted on 09/06/2024 11:54:14 AM PDT by Gort_Klaatu
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To: Jamestown1630

snoozy loozy


9 posted on 09/06/2024 11:58:19 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: Gort_Klaatu

Laches basically means “too late”, for example trying to sue over election results after they have been certified, or trying to sue somebody after all the witnesses have died and there are no pre-death declarations or affidavits.


10 posted on 09/06/2024 11:59:18 AM PDT by jpp113
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In the case of suing over an election result, assuming standing exists, the first thing the suing party must do, is apply for an injunction to stop the certification from happening during the course of the suit.


11 posted on 09/06/2024 12:03:20 PM PDT by jpp113
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My recollection is the courts used a duty dodging two step. Trying to challenge before the election, they said "premature. No injury".

Trying to challenge after the election, they said "Laches", meaning you waited too long to challenge.

I wish to take this opportunity to once again inform everyone of how greatly I regard our legal system, and especially Judges, with contempt.

I find them disgusting, and I would welcome seeing the pompous arrogant bastards dragged off their court thrones and beaten in the streets.

I hate their stupid illogic, their unfairness, and their arrogance.

Our court system is literally a leftover of Monarchism in our Republican system of governance.

We have these Magistrates of the Crown, holding "Court", wearing Robes, sitting on a throne (bench), wielding a scepter, (gavel), and requiring people to come before them and "plead".

They are literally stand-ins for the King.

Should have tossed out this nonsense in 1776.

12 posted on 09/06/2024 12:06:08 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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I can never understand why “laches” applied when we were like mere WEEKS into these fraud issues.

What do they have, a 24-hour notice requirement?


13 posted on 09/06/2024 12:08:07 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: Gort_Klaatu

To have “standing”, you generally must be the aggrieved party.

For example, if some guy in a Dodge Ram runs a stop sign and hits a car your are in and hurts you, you have standing, because you were hurt.

Whoever owns the car you were in has standing.

If he killed you, your estate has standing. Your wife has standing for lost consortium, as do your kids.

Does the guy across the street who saw it all, was horrified, but was never in danger have standing? No, not unless he was in the “zone of danger”.

With things like voter fraud, it becomes hard to find someone who has standing because just being a member of the general population is more like being the guy across the street.

It would take a candidate who was cheated to have standing.

Or perhaps the state whose election process was corrupted.


14 posted on 09/06/2024 12:12:34 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: Gort_Klaatu

Laches applied when some repubs tried to sue states for changing the mail in voting rules. I.e., the exec branch made voting rule changes, but that’s reserved for congress.

Stupid repubs did nothing until after the election. Too late to whine.


15 posted on 09/06/2024 12:13:08 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: DiogenesLamp

What would you suggest to replace it?


16 posted on 09/06/2024 12:18:05 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Gort_Klaatu

“Moot”? Basically meaning, it’s TOO LATE to change anything


17 posted on 09/06/2024 12:46:38 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim (C )
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According to my court guru Zen Master (who supports this), “Standing” is a long-established legal tradition that only people who have a direct harm from a law have a right to redress. Courts do NOT do hypothetical cases.

That said, I responded that I, as a citizen of the US (14th Amend), NOT a citizen of AZ, have a stake in EVERY federal election and should be able to bring a suit.


18 posted on 09/06/2024 12:48:25 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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There is also "ripeness." If the case is too premature, that is, the alleged "harm" is still an assumption and not a likelihood by a preponderance of the evidence, then the courts might not take it up yet.

-PJ

19 posted on 09/06/2024 12:54:29 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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What would you suggest to replace it?

How about lowering the throne down to the same level as the citizen? Are we not all supposed to be equal in this country?

How about requiring rational thinking instead of quasi-logical arguments and an obsession with "precedent"?

Maybe a professional Jury?

Lot of potential improvements could be made.

20 posted on 09/06/2024 1:19:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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