Posted on 09/04/2024 6:24:54 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
Tucker Carlson recently had Darryl Cooper on his podcast to discuss history. The most prominent talking point of Cooper, a historian of sorts, was the ostensibly avoidable nature of the Second World War. It’s not a new thesis; there has always been an American polemic that the United States’ involvement in WWII was unnecessary and unwinnable. Charles Lindbergh and the 1930s America First movement did not think the United States’ involvement was inevitable. A long and often-times inconsistent tradition of Anglophobia convinced many Americans—Lindbergh being the most notable—that Great Britain was tricking the United States into a war it had no stake in. What makes Cooper interesting, and worrisome, is the way he sees Winston Churchill as a primary aggressor in the Second World War instead of the nakedly genocidal, tyrannical, and racist Führer of Germany, Adolf Hitler. Churchill’s warmongering—if one insists on calling it that—was in the defense of the conservative and even nationalist European system against Nazi imperialism.
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He should have postponed Barbarossa too
Hitler was no Tamerlane lol
If you ask that guy about the War of Northern Aggression, he probably thinks it was about slavery.
I like truth, get past all the lying politicians.
I don’t think he’s done one
It’d be thought provoking but he might go woke who knows
All I found was he talks about opposing statue removal and elaborates on Moses Ezekiel a Jewish sculptor who did a number of them and fought in several wars on the continent
Was a vmi cadet in the war at new market etc
Fathered a kid with a mulatto woman
Yet was also gay
I need to read up on Moses lol
It's really too bad that so many people think that the only reason a non-Jew could support Israel is the "rapture." But for some reason no one is willing even theoretically consider the possibility that Judaism is actually the true religion.
The Revelation at Sinai is the one and only self-verifying claim of Divine Revelation in human history. `Am Yisra'el claims that between two and a half and three million people actually directly heard the unmediated Voice of G-d. No go-betweens. No mediators. And notice that there is not another such claim in all human history. Not one. For those who can't think logically, that means that such an event could not have been faked or made up later and then retrojected into earlier history. The Revelation at Sinai could not possibly have not happened. But no, let's just holler about the "rapture."
Has no one but myself notice that the "Bible only" chrstians, being forced to reject all chrstian history as "baptized heathenism," have only the ancient Israelites to look back to as religious forebears? Don't you think that having no "co-religionists" to invoke other than practitioners of a different religion would affect one's worldview slightly? Hmmm?
There is no way to know to prove the truth of chrstianity. There are a zillion different versions who have all cut down and disproved each other ten million times over. But never mind that. Chrstianity "the American religion" (just ask Tom Paine!) or "the religion of The West," so it really doesn't matter whether it's true or not. It was the religion of our ancestors and everyone should subscribe to the religion of his ancestors . . . right? And the Bible Only people insist that they feel funny when they read the Bible (the "burning in the bosom," I believe the mormons call it), so that's all that matters.
We have fruitcakes on this site who claim to have discovered "Biblical truth" that has eluded the entire chrstian world for almost 2000 years. But never mind. The religion we just discovered, being "true chrstianity," is still the "one true religion," despite being in such a state of anarchy that (theoretically) it may never be "restored" completely.
Chrstians accept the "old testament" because J*sus endorsed it. Were it not for that they would have no interest in it whatsoever. The Jews were there when G-d spoke. They're the only people in history who believe in the Bible on the authority of G-d rather than vice-versa. Before Moses died he, with supernatural help, hand-wrote a Torah Scroll for each tribe. The ancient Israelites didn't have the luxury of waiting a thousand years to seek permission from someone who wasn't even born yet. They were there. They knew. The Revelation of Sinai is sufficient to authorize and prove the Torah directly and immediately without any permission from a religion that didn't exist for another thousand years.
Of course all this is for nothing. Chrstianity is "the American Religion." After the Protestant Reformation restored the long lost "one true religion" (despite still quarreling over the details) G-d "obviously" used such flaming holy serafim as Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and Ethan Allen to create the first true chrstian "theocracy" in history.
And still no one will listen.
I’m rethinking some things. My dad, who landed on Utah beach, would rethink a few things too.
https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/ezekiel-moses-jacob-1844-1917/
Moses Jacob Ezekiel (1844–1917)
Early Years
Ezekiel was born on October 28, 1844, in Richmond and was the son of Catharine De Castro Ezekiel and Jacob Ezekiel, a dry goods merchant who had settled in the city a decade earlier. His family was of Spanish-Jewish origin. As a result of his parents’ financial problems, he grew up primarily in the household of his maternal grandmother and a stepgrandfather. Ezekiel attended local academies, but by the age of twelve he had begun working as a bookkeeper in his stepgrandfather’s store. Interested in drawing and painting from a young age, he attempted his first sculpture, a clay bust of his father, when he was about thirteen. As a young man he may have had a liaison with Isabella Johnson, a free African American who worked in the Ezekiel home and whose daughter was born in 1859. Ezekiel entered the Virginia Military Institute in 1862, the first cadet of Jewish descent. During the Civil War he fought alongside his fellow cadets at the Battle of New Market on May 15, 1864, and the following year he served with the corps of cadets in the defenses around Richmond. In 1866 he graduated from VMI last in his class of ten.
Ezekiel returned to Richmond to work in his father’s dry goods store. With some thoughts of becoming a physician, in 1867 he began attending anatomy classes at the Medical College of Virginia. That year his father moved some of the family to Cincinnati, Ohio, and Ezekiel soon joined them. There he began a serious study of sculpture. Ezekiel’s small clay figure Industry (1868), portraying a girl knitting socks while studying her lessons from a book in her lap, won notice in the Cincinnati press when displayed in the window of an art store.
Art Career
In 1869 Ezekiel sailed for Berlin, Prussia, where the sculptor Rudolf Siemering offered him a place in his studio. After gaining admission to the prestigious royal academy, Ezekiel studied life-modeling under Albert Wolff. In 1873 Ezekiel entered his bas-relief Israel in the prestigious Michel Beer Prix de Rome competition at the academy. He was the first non-German to win the award, which provided a stipend for a year’s study in Rome. Later that year the Independent Order of B’nai B’rith commissioned Ezekiel to sculpt a piece for display in Philadelphia during the United States centennial celebration in 1876. Religious Liberty depicts a woman representing Liberty flanked on one side by an American eagle crushing Intolerance and on the other by Faith, a youth holding an eternal flame. After arriving in Rome in 1874, Ezekiel carved the work from a solid block of Carrara marble.
In 1879 Ezekiel established his studio in Rome at the ancient Baths of Diocletian. It quickly became a meeting place for other artists, political figures, and members of the Italian royal family. Ezekiel’s close friends included the composer Franz Liszt and Gustav Cardinal von Hohenlohe, both of whom sat for portrait busts. Ulysses S. Grant, the financier J. Pierpont Morgan, and the Virginia writer and diplomat Thomas Nelson Page numbered among Ezekiel’s many American visitors, for some of whom he created portrait busts or funerary effigies.
Ezekiel’s sculptures follow the classical lines of his early German training—a romantic, elaborate, and ornate style dependent on heavy lines and bold mass. He modeled his works in clay, usually from living models, formed them into plaster, and then carved the sculptures from blocks of marble or sent them to a foundry for casting in bronze. Most of his more than two hundred surviving pieces were portraits of individuals. Some of Ezekiel’s works employed religious themes, including a bronze head of David (1893) and the recumbent marble Christ in the Tomb (1896). In 1899 he completed a bronze bust of Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, an advocate of Reform Judaism in the United States. Always proud of his heritage, Ezekiel considered himself an artist who was also Jewish, but he did not want to be labeled a Jewish sculptor.
Corcoran Gallery of Art
Ezekiel secured enduring fame as a sculptor through his heroic lifelike portraits. In 1877 he accepted a commission from W. W. Corcoran for eleven marble statues of famous artists through the ages, including Phidias, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and Thomas Crawford, for display in the exterior niches of the Corcoran Gallery of Art, in Washington, D.C. The museum moved to a new location in 1897, and Ezekiel’s sculptures were later installed at the Norfolk Botanical Garden. In 1899 Ezekiel completed for the city of Louisville, Kentucky, a large-scale bronze of Thomas Jefferson standing atop the Liberty Bell and reading the Declaration of Independence, a statue he replicated for the University of Virginia and unveiled eleven years later. His other public commissions include bronzes of Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson (1909) for the Charleston, West Virginia, chapter of the United Daughters of the Confederacy (a copy of which was installed at VMI in 1912); John Warwick Daniel (1913), a U.S. congressman and senator from Lynchburg; and Edgar Allan Poe (1915) for the Poe Memorial Association, in Baltimore.
Confederate Memorial in Arlington Cemetery
Ezekiel retained his love of Virginia and the Confederate cause all his life and expressed disappointment when his designs for monuments in Richmond honoring Robert E. Lee and Confederate soldiers and sailors were rejected. In 1903 VMI installed Virginia Mourning Her Dead as a memorial to the cadets who had fought at New Market. Ezekiel had molded the figure while a student in Berlin, and he completed and cast it in bronze in 1900. His statue of a soldier, entitled Southern, was unveiled in 1910 at the cemetery for Confederate prisoners of war at Johnson’s Island, Ohio. Ezekiel returned to the United States on several occasions for unveilings and to visit family and friends in Virginia. His last such visit occurred in 1914, when he attended the dedication of his monumental bronze memorial to the Confederate soldiers buried at Arlington National Cemetery.
Moses (”Moe”) Ezekiel
Throughout his career Ezekiel received numerous honors, including the Cross of Merit for Art and Science from the grand duke of Saxe-Meiningen in 1887 and the Golden Cross of the House of Hohenzollern from the German emperor in 1893. King Victor Emanuel III declared Ezekiel a Cavaliere Ufficiale della Corana d’Italia (Officer of the Crown of Italy) in 1906. The sculptor was known as Sir Moses Ezekiel as early as 1892. The origin of the title is unclear, and sources cite variously a knighthood bestowed by the king of Italy and by the German emperor. Ezekiel may have adopted the title himself after receiving one of his prestigious awards.
Later Years
World War I Red Cross Poster
In 1909 the Italian government reclaimed the Baths of Diocletian, and Ezekiel moved to a new studio in the Tower of Belisarius. During World War I he served on a committee that distributed American Red Cross funds to Italians in need, and he also helped coordinate shipments of supplies to soldiers at the front. Overworked during the cold, damp winter of 1916–1917, Ezekiel developed pneumonia and died at his studio on March 27, 1917. He left incomplete his final work, a statue of VMI’s first superintendent, Francis Henney Smith. Ezekiel was interred temporarily in the city cemetery near the San Lorenzo neighborhood in Rome. In accordance with his wishes, on March 31, 1921, he was buried among his Confederate comrades in Arlington National Cemetery at the base of his towering monument.
The permanent collections of many institutions, including the VMI Museum, the Cincinnati Art Museum, and the Skirball Cultural Center at Hebrew Union College, Los Angeles, feature examples of Ezekiel’s work. In 1985 the National Museum of American Jewish History, in Philadelphia, organized a major traveling exhibition.
ZC - Christianity is a sect of 2nd temple Judaism dating from 30 AD when Jesus preached.
what we call Judaism today actually is Rabbinical Judaism, derived from the Pharisee sect of 2nd temple Judaism and dating to 70 AD.
So Christianity is actually 40 years OLDER than what we term Judaism today.
Cross-check my statements below with historical books and you can draw your own conclusions:
1. Judaism after the destruction of the 1st temple and before the death of Christ had multiple sects and beliefs:
1.1. Sadducees - the traditional who only kept the Torah and may have read but didn’t consider them God breathed
1.2. The Pharisees who arose later post exile and had the Oral Torah and Prophets in addition. The Oral Torah was written down encapsulated in the Talmud - completed around the 9th century AD
1.3. The essenes
1.4. The Jesus movement Jews
etc.
When the temple was destroyed, only the Jesus movement Jewish sect survived as that was the only one that predicted the temple would be destroyed.
The Pharisees reconfigured themselves in 70 AD as Rabbinical Judaism, what we now call simply “Judaism”
I’m ignorant of hebrews and Israelites and judaeans and the historical biography
We didn’t dwell on that as covenant southern Baptists
And don’t know much about the Talmud
I do however know a lot about modern Jews
I grew up with several I know to this day
100s in my life esp in Manhattan
Several intimately of the opposite sex
And currently have two Jewish business associates one is actually a partner
The innate fear of pogroms and nationalist Christians like me going Nazi is deeply imbedded and not without some basis honestly
It becomes a dog chasing its tail the reaction to the action and the reaction to that and so forth
Churchill had a number of strategies for winning WWII.
Remember that there were a big set of battles in south-east Asia that the Brits fought mostly on their own. They (the Brits) also won North Africa on their own.
Of course, the “their own” means the British EMPIRE - with 2 million Indian soldiers (all volunteers) fighting for Britain alongside Canadian, Australian, South African and New Zealander troops.
"before" they started????
Rudolf hess flew into the UK on the 10th of May 1941. WWII had started on the 3rd of September 1939 - nearly 2 years earlier. What are you on about???
I suppose you can say the Brits won North Africa on their own if you ignore Operation Torch, General Patton, the Kassarine Pass and subsequent operations.
About 100,000 American troops were not an insignificant contribution.
Good point - I completely forgot about Operation Torch. You're right
If time travel was possible , I want to go to go back to 1930,s Germany with a 30.06 and find Hitler in front of me.
One shot could have saved so much evil from happening
This is all a “what if” game which is inherently unknowable.
It is impossible to know if the world would have been better or worse if Adolf Hitler had been killed, say in 1932.
Not really. Hitler and Stalin took Poland for various reasons due to border security and such. England and France had guaranteed Polands sovereignty, although they was no real way they could do that effectively since neither had the resources near to do so. It was certainly the wrong reason to go to war to begin with.
“ It is impossible to know if the world would have been better or worse if Adolf Hitler had been killed, say in 1932.”
Read what you wrote.
You know the answer .
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