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Why Iran is so hard to defeat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joAhvj7dfsc ^ | 8/25/2024 | CaspianReport

Posted on 08/25/2024 12:04:46 PM PDT by Chode

#Iran has repeatedly demonstrated its ability to withstand invasions, making it almost impossible to subjugate. But why is that? What makes Iran so tough?


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To: Gaffer

left them out to dry...


21 posted on 08/25/2024 1:20:30 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: ganeemead

Genghis needed a big army to do this. We do not have such an army in place and it would be hard to get there and support without support from other lands—who could support us? Israel? We have air power and naval power but that can not defeat and hold territory.


22 posted on 08/25/2024 1:24:00 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell)
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To: metmom

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23 posted on 08/25/2024 1:27:19 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: GOPJ

Amen...


24 posted on 08/25/2024 1:29:13 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

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25 posted on 08/25/2024 1:29:56 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: fso301

yup, Persians aren’t Arabs...


26 posted on 08/25/2024 1:30:52 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

Because of Jimmy Carter.


27 posted on 08/25/2024 1:31:19 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Chode

Why would you want to invade Iran. Just bomb them from a safe distance.


28 posted on 08/25/2024 1:32:15 PM PDT by McGruff (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Chode

Maybe it’s because our government send them billions and billions under the table.


29 posted on 08/25/2024 1:33:21 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Peak crazy is almost here.)
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To: Dartoid
Someone forgot to tell that to Alexander. :)

Not only Alexander, but also the Arabs and Mongols conquered Persia. A better question might be: "Why is Iran so easy to defeat?"

30 posted on 08/25/2024 1:43:18 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

The US seems to be working against the Iranian People who want to be free.


31 posted on 08/25/2024 1:43:56 PM PDT by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with Nixon?)
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To: drypowder

Jobama continues to send them $87 billion a week.


32 posted on 08/25/2024 1:45:58 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
Jobama continues to send them $87 billion million a week.
33 posted on 08/25/2024 1:46:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Flag_This

Where would have dropped the nuke?


34 posted on 08/25/2024 1:52:30 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Chode

Geography, amongst other things.


35 posted on 08/25/2024 2:01:41 PM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Colt1851Navy

“ The US seems to be working against the Iranian People who want to be free.”

The U.S. also works against the American people who want to be free.


36 posted on 08/25/2024 2:07:17 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Peak crazy is almost here.)
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To: Chode

C 130’s full of paper dollars are helpful.


37 posted on 08/25/2024 2:13:37 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: Flag_This
"Had Jimmy Carter been any part of a president, a single B-52 strike would have wrapped up their revolution and removed any need to invade them now."

The world would be a better place today if he had annihilated the entire city of Tehran, inadvertently/regrettably killing everyone in the US Embassy in the process, and telling the family of the American hostages, "I'm sorry, it couldn't be helped."

Instead he showed the Islamo-Fascists that the American government could be cowed by putting a few of its citizens on TV and threatening to pull out their toenails.


And OBTW, one major factor allowing the Iranian "students" to blindside the American Intel community was Carter's Executive Order 12036, which gutted the Humane Intelligence (HUMINT) community. Because Carter, like Secretary of State Henry Stimson, believed spying was a base and uncivilized act ("Gentlemen don't read each other's mail" -- Stimson). Carter believed more modern collection methods (esp. overhead surveillance) eliminated the need for HUMINT.

Unfortunately for America, the Iranian "students" were keen to show Carter the error of his ways.

And OBTW, much of Carter's EO 12036, including the throttling of HUMINT, was rescinded by Boss Ray-Gun's famous EO twelve triple-three.

38 posted on 08/25/2024 2:17:10 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: ealgeone
Where would have dropped the nuke?

With modern guidance systems, right down that well in Qom...

39 posted on 08/25/2024 2:30:54 PM PDT by null and void (Don't hallucinate and legislate, don't hallucinate and educate...)
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To: Paal Gulli

Actually it starts even earlier in the Nixon administration. As part of currrying favor with the Shah it was agreed that HUMINT gathered in Iran would come from SAVAK. Of course all the US got was a “rosy things are wonderful” picture. Carter’s idiotic INTEL notions just made things worse.

Also our “footprint” of US contractors, US government civilians, US military, etc was way too large in Iran. We became “irritating”.(I forget the numbers.) We’ve had the same problem in SA. So far it hasn’t led to the same “explosion”. Maybe we learned and have handled it better, maybe we’ve been lucky, maybe SA has been smarter.


40 posted on 08/25/2024 2:35:21 PM PDT by Reily
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