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NASA Might Delay Upcoming Crew 9 Mission to Return Stranded Starliner Astronauts to Earth
gizmodo.com ^ | August 5, 2024 | Passant Rabie

Posted on 08/06/2024 5:14:25 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: logi_cal869

That happened TWICE at a company I used to work for.

Two different contracts and two different major contractors, when the contractors (Martin Marietta and RCA) got into financial difficulties on their contracts with the military, they blamed the subcontractor, us, and pulled the contracts.

On one of the contracts, the company’s union was upset that the work was being done by a non-union sub, us.....................


21 posted on 08/06/2024 6:59:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

You’ll note my lack of ‘sarc’...


22 posted on 08/06/2024 7:02:38 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Red Badger
90 days is all the Starliner can do in space, and that's if everything's working right. Boeing's in a bind -- they want the ground tests to verify that it's safe to fly, but instead the ground tests have only identified the problems, and these are all things that should have been figured out during engineering and development.

If they send the craft down with a crew in it, there's a good likelihood that the crew will die in one or more of the failures, and the scuttlebutt is that manual or partially manual reentry will no longer be an option.

If they send the craft back to Earth uncrewed and it fails (as seems likely) NASA will have to suspend the contract for the crewed flights until the craft (already delayed a few years) has its bugs ironed out.

If uncrewed automated landing (propulsive, on land) actually succeeds, sending the crew down in a different craft -- by a competitor -- will have been the right move but make them look like they can't get the job done.

Of course, if they send the crew aboard Starliner for return to Earth and it works, it will look more like gambling with their lives than it will look like a success.

23 posted on 08/06/2024 7:04:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Red Badger

3 hour cruise


24 posted on 08/06/2024 7:08:40 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Owen

“as of now I suspect there is no urgency”

At this point the astronauts are like prisoners of war—but as you say there is no urgency to get them home....

Lol.

Put the entire Boeing Board of Directors in jail until the astronauts get home—that would create some urgency.


25 posted on 08/06/2024 7:09:38 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: SunkenCiv

They are stuck between a rock and a empty space..............


26 posted on 08/06/2024 7:12:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Butch and Sundance doesn’t end well - it’s a theme.


27 posted on 08/06/2024 7:26:11 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Red Badger
Despite several technical mishaps that have delayed Starliner’s return to Earth, NASA has continuously insisted that the vehicle is capable of carrying the crew back

If so, why has it not carried the two astronauts back?

28 posted on 08/06/2024 7:50:05 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: Red Badger

starliner lands on land at the white sands test range in new mexico


29 posted on 08/06/2024 3:16:00 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46

That’s where it’s supposed to land, but if it fails it will probably land in the ocean.........


30 posted on 08/06/2024 5:05:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

no boeing will want to recover the capsule


31 posted on 08/06/2024 5:18:18 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46

If it won’t steer they might not have a choice...........


32 posted on 08/06/2024 5:30:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: MtnClimber

#3 NASA cannot bring back Starliner on auto pilot as they removed the software that had been used a few years ago on a unpiloted test mission.


33 posted on 08/07/2024 12:44:36 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: MtnClimber; Red Badger

There were at least two You tube articles yesterday on the subject....... bad news.

The star liner capsule can’t retrun unmanned. The soft ware requires human input from inside the capsule for operation. The worst aspect of this fact is that the capsuloe can’t even be detached, released from the space station without someone inside the capsule operating the release controls.

At present or at least yesterday NASA/Boeing have a very big and unsolvable problem. i


34 posted on 08/07/2024 4:54:24 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: bert

Interesting.


35 posted on 08/07/2024 4:55:59 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: Red Badger

there is no thruster problem with the capsule, different system. the problem thrusters are on the service module, which is cast off before reentry


36 posted on 08/07/2024 10:45:26 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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