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For bigger muscles push close to failure, for strength, maybe not
Medical Xpress / Florida Atlantic University / Sports Medicine ^ | July 31, 2024 | Zac P. Robinson et al

Posted on 08/05/2024 6:08:30 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

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Resistance training to just 3-5 repetitions short of what you could finally get out gives you similar strength as doing it to complete failure.

Doing it to failure also helps you build more muscle/muscle cells.

1 posted on 08/05/2024 6:08:30 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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2 posted on 08/05/2024 6:08:57 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Bodybuilders in the 1970’s would do a couple months of powerlifting to increase their strength after their big contests.

Part of the problem in analyzing the data is that those most prone to gaining strength tend to be least able to rep out their exercises beyond a few reps. They would be exhausted in the low rep range.


3 posted on 08/05/2024 6:14:43 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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“Doing it to failure also helps you build more muscle/muscle cells.”


“However, growth in cell numbers is limited to the prenatal and immediately postnatal period, with the animals and man being born with or soon reaching their full complement of muscle cells. “

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2222798/


4 posted on 08/05/2024 6:16:24 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ConservativeMind

light weight high reps doesn’t look cool but works.


5 posted on 08/05/2024 6:36:18 PM PDT by xoxox
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Since my rep limit is 3 -5, I’m safe at zero. I’ll lay here on the couch smug in knowing I’m saving my muscles.


6 posted on 08/05/2024 6:48:44 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Depressed? Do what I did, replace your mirrors with "You Look Great!" signs.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Mark


7 posted on 08/05/2024 6:59:26 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ConservativeMind
10x at three reps with increasing weights.

Not to failure, but definitely not wanting to test it.

Works for moi.

8 posted on 08/05/2024 7:12:26 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: xoxox

12 - 16 oz. Is my goto for high reps.


9 posted on 08/05/2024 7:14:59 PM PDT by CTyank
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To: ConservativeMind

Interesting.

ued to read up on strength training to figue out load, repetion count, # of sets, and rest interval time.

hard to find it clearly spelled out.

Now I am old and just do not want to tweak anything, takes to long o heal it.


10 posted on 08/05/2024 7:44:24 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either)
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“light weight high reps doesn’t look cool but works.”

Maybe that is why all the chicks do that?

I tell my wife she is helping circulate the air with all that waving around.


11 posted on 08/05/2024 7:53:30 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either)
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One of the toughest guys I knew showed me a light rep slo-motion thing to deal with a shoulder injury and I was convinced. Eventually my focus became flexibility and that coincided with old age in a fortuitous turn of events.


12 posted on 08/05/2024 7:58:42 PM PDT by xoxox
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Eventually my focus became flexibility and that coincided with old age in a fortuitous turn of events.

When I was young I never could get the muscles I wanted. Now I'm old and glad to have pain-free flexibility. I see too many who when young had the physique I was aiming for but who now just can't move around very well.

13 posted on 08/05/2024 8:17:35 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina (The time is out of joint. - Hamlet)
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Interestingly, that may not be the case:

“A novel imaging method (FIM-ID) reveals that myofibrillogenesis plays a major role in the mechanically induced growth of skeletal muscle

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38466320/


14 posted on 08/05/2024 8:35:53 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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It’s late. I must have missed where they said muscle cells increase in number.


15 posted on 08/05/2024 8:47:50 PM PDT by TexasGator
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“Muscle fibers are largely composed of myofibrils, but whether radial growth is mediated by an increase in the size of the myofibrils (i.e. myofibril hypertrophy) and/or the number of myofibrils (i.e. myofibrillogenesis) is not known.”

“After extensively validating the automated measurements, we used both mouse and human models of increased mechanical loading to discover that the radial growth of muscle fibers is largely mediated by myofibrillogenesis.”

https://elifesciences.org/articles/92674


16 posted on 08/05/2024 8:53:33 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Myofibrils are components of the cell. Increasing the number of myofibrils does not change the number of cells.


17 posted on 08/05/2024 8:57:11 PM PDT by TexasGator
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“the radial growth of muscle fibers is largely mediated by myofibrillogenesis.”

Is equivalent to:


the radial growth of muscle CELLS is largely mediated by myofibrillogenesis.


18 posted on 08/05/2024 8:59:24 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Farmer strength is a real thing. Not big muscles but man, they can life HEAVY stuff like it’s a snap. All without some scientific training regimen, just working hard and lifting stuff all the time, every day, just because it needs lifting.


19 posted on 08/05/2024 10:12:48 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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Would you share the “...light rep slo-motion thing to deal with a shoulder injury ...” that worked for you?


20 posted on 08/05/2024 10:32:00 PM PDT by mouske
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