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Cars Are Now Rolling Computers, So How Long Will They Get Updates? Automakers Can’t Say
Spotify ^ | 25 July 2024 | AArian Marshall

Posted on 07/27/2024 12:16:15 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Phones are supported well beyond their average ownership lifetime. In stark contrast, automakers are struggling to work out how long their “smartphones on wheels” can be kept on the road.

In 2022, the automaker told drivers of the affected cars, some only three years old, that a technical solution was delayed by the pandemic. Now, more than two years later, those drivers still don’t have access to telematics services.

A recent report found that cars and trucks just reached a new record average age of 12.6 years, up two months from 2023.

“Whatever anybody is saying right now, it will really have to be proven out in time,” says Stacey Higginbotham, a policy fellow at Consumer Reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at open.spotify.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Humor
KEYWORDS: automotive; cars; computers; expired; rollingcomputers; updating
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To: Z28.310

“Worth considering”

Worth considering:

Nav system saves time and money

BU camera gives better coverage due to location and wide angle camera especially when backing out of parking spot.

BSM covers your blindspot!


81 posted on 07/27/2024 5:19:01 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Clay Moore

Thanks.

I still have said vehicle and could easily check the brand of plug in one cylinder.


82 posted on 07/27/2024 5:30:21 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: TexasGator

“Always back in.”

It just makes sense, except downtown, where one should never go.


83 posted on 07/27/2024 5:32:07 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“frame undercarriage work”

I have driven personal vehs where one could see the road going by on the passenger side.

YMMV.


84 posted on 07/27/2024 5:34:31 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: Paladin2

“A yuge PITA to have to have to disassemble the intake manifold to get to the back 3 cylinders...”

That would be the online 6?


85 posted on 07/27/2024 5:40:33 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Paladin2

““Always back in.””

Ever back into an angled spot?


86 posted on 07/27/2024 5:44:31 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Nav system saves time and money
BU camera gives better coverage due to location and wide angle camera especially when backing out of parking spot.
BSM covers your blindspot

,,,,,,
We used to look at a map. In the event it’s needed, it is already on every phone
We used to know how to back up our cars by looking backwards, using our mirrors and knowing how long our vehilcles were.
We used to swivel our heads and actually LOOK into the next two lanes over.

This is how it’s what’s been. Active minds, actively engaged.

Skills all lost when technology made our brains lazy.

Kinda like actually REMEMBERING people’s phone numbers.

The more we rely on computers to think for us, the more stupid we become.


87 posted on 07/27/2024 5:45:56 PM PDT by Z28.310 (does not comply well with others)
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To: Z28.310

“We used to know how to back up our cars by looking backwards, using our mirrors and knowing how long our vehilcles were.”

The BU camera is at the back of the car. It can see where the driver can’t see.

Knowing how long your car is doesn’t mean you know exactly where that hidden obstacle behind you is.


88 posted on 07/27/2024 5:52:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Z28.310

“We used to look at a map.”

We still look at maps. Now just on a screen.

Looking at paper maps while in traffic at 65 mph is not advisable.

Paper maps do not give visual and aural updates.


89 posted on 07/27/2024 5:57:21 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Those are lame excuses for lameness.
We USED to look, or get out and look.

Lazy brains, obese and morbidly obese lazy bodies now.

Maybe get a self driving car, an uber, or a cab. Then you’ll no longer have to think at all!

Soon, you won’t, in the wonderful fifteen minute city utopias that are planned. THEN life will be bliss, right? =)


90 posted on 07/27/2024 6:04:22 PM PDT by Z28.310 (does not comply well with others)
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To: Z28.310

“The more we rely on computers to think for us, the more stupid we become.”

Correct! Remember when “cranking” meant using a manual crank?


91 posted on 07/27/2024 6:06:58 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Z28.310

“We USED to look, or get out and look.”

How many times do you get out of your car when backing up?


92 posted on 07/27/2024 6:08:24 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Z28.310

“Those are lame excuses for lameness.”

Your lame response since that is all you have ...


93 posted on 07/27/2024 6:11:27 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Z28.310

“Kinda like actually REMEMBERING people’s phone numbers.”

That is not a winning point!


94 posted on 07/27/2024 6:15:48 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: DUMBGRUNT

SCOTUS Ruled on this..

In a major ruling, the Supreme Court on Friday cut back sharply on the power of federal agencies to interpret the laws they administer and ruled that courts should rely on their own interpretation of ambiguous laws. The decision will likely have far-reaching effects across the country, from environmental regulation to healthcare costs.

By a vote of 6-3, the justices overruled their landmark 1984 decision in Chevron v. Natural Resources Defense Council, which gave rise to the doctrine known as the Chevron doctrine. Under that doctrine, if Congress has not directly addressed the question at the center of a dispute, a court was required to uphold the agency’s interpretation of the statute as long as it was reasonable. But in a 35-page ruling by Chief Justice John Roberts, the justices rejected that doctrine, calling it “fundamentally misguided.”

Justice Clarence Thomas penned a brief concurring opinion in which he emphasized that the Chevron doctrine was inconsistent not only with the Administrative Procedure Act but also with the Constitution’s division of power among the three branches of government. The Chevron doctrine, he argued, requires judges to give up their constitutional power to exercise their independent judgment, and it allows the executive branch to “exercise powers not given to it.”


95 posted on 07/27/2024 6:37:23 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If they were built right in the first place, they wouldn’t need updates.


96 posted on 07/27/2024 6:53:47 PM PDT by meyer ("When, in the course of human events,....")
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To: Z28.310

https://www.bing.com/search?q=why+do+people+overuse+commas&cvid=626c3ef606d247cc89c722ef174a17fc&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggCEAAYQDIGCAAQRRg5MgYIARAAGEAyBggCEAAYQNIBCTExMDY4ajBqNKgCCLACAQ&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531


97 posted on 07/27/2024 6:56:39 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: meyer

https://www.bing.com/search?q=why+do+people+overuse+commas&cvid=626c3ef606d247cc89c722ef174a17fc&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggCEAAYQDIGCAAQRRg5MgYIARAAGEAyBggCEAAYQNIBCTExMDY4ajBqNKgCCLACAQ&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531


98 posted on 07/27/2024 7:44:41 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: meyer

-”If they were built right in the first place, they wouldn’t need updates.”

It is believed that perfection is not possible and will never happen.

Also technology changes, and simple password crackers are lightyears ahead of the old wargames password hacker.

Most of the updates to the Linux kernel offer necessary security patches, performance improvements, and bug fixes guessing it would be a similar mix for a computer on wheels.

My bicycle has a nice computer, but rolls fine without it.


99 posted on 07/27/2024 8:04:46 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: TexasGator

““We used to know how to back up our cars by looking backwards, using our mirrors and knowing how long our vehilcles were.””

Interesting you mention the mirror!

We used to back up our cars by looking backwards with the right arm over the seat back never using the mirror. The rearview mirror is one of those devices that makes us lazy and lose those skills.


100 posted on 07/27/2024 8:07:10 PM PDT by TexasGator
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